When "Neighborhood Watch" Gets Out of Hand

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Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

There is no evidence that Trayvon's race had anything to do with it.

Actually yeah, there is: the only thing Zimmerman knew about this kid, reported to the police, was that he was black and he "didn't know what his deal was". Zimmerman called in a kid walking alone a street simply because he was black. The kid was doing nothing but walking.

On the video, I think you could clearly see that Zimmerman had a gash on the back of his head.

No. Not at all. There is zero evidence of any "gash" on his head. There is zero evidence of blood on the back of the shirt (head "gash") or the front of the shirt ("broken nose"), along with zero dirt or grass stains. Witnesses said he was wearing this shirt during his fight with Treyvon.

Even tiny head lacerations bleed like crazy, especially when you are fighting, and your adrenaline and blood pressure are sky high. Impossible for him to have anything other than a bruise and a completely minor skin abrasion with no blood - and virtually impossible to have any scalp skin break at all, ignored during a fight, without some blood. Let alone zero blood from a "broken nose".

There are several witnesses that said he had a bloody nose. Do you think all those people were lying?

There are witnesses the police ignored that said the opposite. Right now on the video there is zero visible evidence of swelling, injury, blood on his face, blood on the back of his clothes, blood on his sleeve. Amazing, if his nose was broken in the front, and his head "gashed" in the back. The immaculate broken nose?

Zimmerman was treated for his injuries at the scene. The fact that you couldn't see blood on him in the video, after he had been cleaned up at the scene, is hardly proof that there was no altercation.

He was not treated by ambulance personnel, according to the police he was "treated in the back of the squad car". Really? We're supposed to believe that? That no help was called for this crime "victim's" gash and broken nose? Sorry. He didn't change clothes. There is no blood on his clothes. And as a former paramedic, I'll tell you that we don't wash people off. And in a murder, the police wouldn't let us eliminate any blood evidence anyway.

I'm not quite sure what you are saying? Are you saying that you don't think there was a physical altercation?

I'm saying that the facts leaked by the police don't match with the dog and pony show Zimmerman's brother is putting out to the press. The tapes make it clear there were nearly a minute of a person screaming for help, stilled by a gunshot. This police department has a history of racial incompetence and problems in the community. The current police chief was brought in to fix it. Now he's on leave, too.

The problem isn't whether Zimmerman was justified in murdering this child. The problem is this appalling police department of incompetents (yes, they have a record of racial/community problems). The problem is that a murdered kid was allowed to sit in the morgue for three days as a "John Doe", when they had a cell phone and neighborhood they could have canvassed. Took them three days to get that warrant to unlock a locked cell phone? That was dropped in a scuffle and possibly broken? The lead investigator wants an arrest, but he's told not to?

Nothing happened with this case for WEEKS, until the family of the murdered kid went to their Congresswoman. Just another dead black kid, no charges, nothing to see here.

The fight probably lasted 10 seconds.

According to the various 9-11 calls released by the PD, that have the fight and the murder (the shots) in the background, the "fight" lasted at least 45 seconds before a gunshot stills the cries for help.