When "Neighborhood Watch" Gets Out of Hand

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

You keep saying that Zimmerman was following the kid "for no reason". He was following him for a very good reason. Zimmerman is the neighborhood watch captain. He knows the neighborhood and he knows the people who live there. It's a gated community. He sees a person that he has never seen before, walking through the neighborhood. Why wouldn't he follow him? What would be the point of neighborhood watch otherwise? If you were working neighborhood watch and you see a person in your neighborhood that you've never seen before, would you ignore them?

I've never officially been involved in neighborhood watch but I always keep my eyes open. When I do see something suspicious, I call the police. And I always follow the person until the police arrive. If I didn't follow the person, the police would never find the guy. The police usually don't arrive for at least 10 minutes. The person may be 10 blocks away by then.

Would you continue to persue even when the police dispatcher clearly tells you not to. To me he becomes the aggressor at this point.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by jms62

Would you continue to persue even when the police dispatcher clearly tells you not to. To me he becomes the aggressor at this point.

I would continue to pursue in my car but I would certainly keep my distance. I would stay in my car and I would stay a good 50 to 100 yards away while I followed. You don't know if the person is armed. And even if they're not armed, you don't want to get into a physical confrontation.

Zimmerman obviously made a huge mistake. He got way too close. He should have never gotten out of his car.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

I would continue to pursue in my car but I would certainly keep my distance. I would stay in my car and I would stay a good 50 to 100 yards away while I followed. You don't know if the person is armed. And even if they're not armed, you don't want to get into a physical confrontation.

Zimmerman obviously made a huge mistake. He got way too close. He should have never gotten out of his car.

Exactly what should have been done. Zimmerman was looking for a conforntation and this is why the Fla law is so ****ed up. You can provoke someone and then kill them and with no witness easily get away with it. Zimmermans past arrest speaks alot to his character to me. He appears to be a tough guy looking for a fight.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by jms62

Exactly what should have been done. Zimmerman was looking for a conforntation and this is why the Fla law is so ****ed up. You can provoke someone and then kill them and with no witness easily get away with it. Zimmermans past arrest speaks alot to his character to me. He appears to be a tough guy looking for a fight.

I think that is a serious problem with that law. As you said, I think you could conceivably provoke someone and then kill them and get away with it, if there were no witnesses. That could happen.

I don't think that is really what happened in this case, at least not intentionally. I don't think Zimmerman planned on killing the guy. I think he just wanted to be able to tell the police where the suspect was when they arrived.

I was reading about a case down there several years ago where a guy and his neighbor got into a dispute over garbage cans. The neighbor ended up shooting this guy twice. The guy survived even though he got shot twice in the stomach. The neighbor was an ex-cop and he was never charged. To me that case was much worse (worse in terms of arguing self-defense) than the Zimmerman case because there was no physical altercation. The guy was approaching his neighbor, but I think he was still a good 15 feet away when he got shot. I think the neighbor (the ex-cop) knew the law and basically provoked the guy on purpose.

And if you're going down that path then the real problem is neighborhood watches and homeowners associations. These jokes were formed because scared motherf.uckers wanted extra protection. So little Hitlers take the jobs of HOA presidents and neighborhood watch security.

It was only a matter of time before something like this happened.

Personally I wish both of them would have died. I have no use for retarded tween thugs that still think no limit records is relevant. And I definitely have no use for a retarded 20-something control freak who looks like a volunteer fireman.

This country doesn't need to riot over two pieces of s.hit. And there is no debate that these two humans were scum.