2013-2014 NBA Season

Cannon Shell · #1 01-14-2014, 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

lol And???
This is what he does. He will never win anything in this league. He is a selfish scorer. Nothing wrong with that I guess. He is another Barkley or Ewing, well a poor mans Barkley or Ewing.

1st ballot hall of famer?

29-16-4 last night.

RockHardTen1985 · #2 01-14-2014, 06:15 AM

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1st ballot hall of famer?

29-16-4 last night.

He might end up being that, like I said a poor mans. I prefer winners. And if guys I like, example being Harden never win anything Ill say the same thing about him. I dont get that kill a team, selfish vibe from Big Game James though.
He will never win anything though. I dont care if he gets hooked w/ Paul, Love, Rondo. His only hope would be somehow playing w/ Lebron. And Lebron would never EVER PLAY W/ MELO.

Cannon Shell · #3 01-14-2014, 06:24 AM

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He might end up being that, like I said a poor mans. I prefer winners. And if guys I like, example being Harden never win anything Ill say the same thing about him. I dont get that kill a team, selfish vibe from Big Game James though.
He will never win anything though. I dont care if he gets hooked w/ Paul, Love, Rondo. His only hope would be somehow playing w/ Lebron. And Lebron would never EVER PLAY W/ MELO.

The guy played 1 year of college basketball and won the Nat'l championship and outstanding player of the tourney.

His teams have never missed the playoffs in his entire NBA career.

2 gold medals.

Seems like a lot of winning?

Harden is a shorter version of Anthony that plays even less defense. Because he was drafted by a team with a great GM and traded to a team with a very good GM doesnt make him a better player or a "winner". It just makes him fortunate.

Is Chris Paul not a "winner" because his resume doesnt measure up to Carmello's?

RockHardTen1985 · #4 01-14-2014, 07:35 AM

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The guy played 1 year of college basketball and won the Nat'l championship and outstanding player of the tourney.

His teams have never missed the playoffs in his entire NBA career.

2 gold medals.

Seems like a lot of winning?

Harden is a shorter version of Anthony that plays even less defense. Because he was drafted by a team with a great GM and traded to a team with a very good GM doesnt make him a better player or a "winner". It just makes him fortunate.

Is Chris Paul not a "winner" because his resume doesnt measure up to Carmello's?

Chris Paul is more of a leader, but he also has won nothing yet.
He's also not a team wrecker.

Cannon Shell · #5 01-14-2014, 08:49 AM

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Chris Paul is more of a leader, but he also has won nothing yet.
He's also not a team wrecker.

So this means that Paul is not a winner because he was drafted by New Orleans and was traded to the Clippers?

What team did Anthony wreck? Can you wreck a team into the playoffs?

cmorioles · #6 01-14-2014, 05:28 PM

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Chris Paul is more of a leader, but he also has won nothing yet.
He's also not a team wrecker.

He is a coach wrecker...team wrecker to be determined.

While he is obviously very good, I also think he is somewhat overrated.

RockHardTen1985 · #7 01-14-2014, 05:32 PM

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He is a coach wrecker...team wrecker to be determined.

While he is obviously very good, I also think he is somewhat overrated.

I agree. He is kinda like Melo in that sense that they are both anointed as superstars. Both have had chances to win, neither have. Why when its Lebron and he was winning 60 games in Clevland and getting blasted by much better Spurs teams he was coming up small and could not win??? He still brought that horrible collection of talent to the finals. **** his Robin was Larry Hughes. Melo and Paul have never even made a finals.

Cannon Shell · #8 01-14-2014, 06:04 PM

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I agree. He is kinda like Melo in that sense that they are both anointed as superstars. Both have had chances to win, neither have. Why when its Lebron and he was winning 60 games in Clevland and getting blasted by much better Spurs teams he was coming up small and could not win??? He still brought that horrible collection of talent to the finals. **** his Robin was Larry Hughes. Melo and Paul have never even made a finals.

Is LeBron the new standard that everyone must measure up to not the exception? To be fair the year that LeBron's team made the finals in Cleveland the East was very weak. Plus how can you singlehandedly take a team to the Finals and still "come up small"?

Melo has ALWAYS WON! He has never played on a team with a losing record ever! Winning the championship is an idiotic way of measuring individual players. Please show me a single team that Carmelo Anthony or Chris Paul was on that had a prayer of winning the title?

Conrad · #9 01-14-2014, 05:38 PM

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He is a coach wrecker...team wrecker to be determined.

While he is obviously very good, I also think he is somewhat overrated.

Chris Paul

I suggested this to a big CP fan friend of mine and was basically yelled at.
He's fantastic and all that, but is he the one to lead a team to the title?
I am beginning to seriously doubt it.

Cannon Shell · #10 01-14-2014, 06:14 PM

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Chris Paul

I suggested this to a big CP fan friend of mine and was basically yelled at.
He's fantastic and all that, but is he the one to lead a team to the title?
I am beginning to seriously doubt it.

Based on what exactly? New Orleans and the Clippers rich tradition of winning and his failure to singlehandedly catapult them into model organzations like San Antonio and Miami?

You think if we subbed him for Tony Parker that SA doesnt win a few of those titles?

Cannon Shell · #11 01-14-2014, 05:57 PM

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He is a coach wrecker...team wrecker to be determined.

While he is obviously very good, I also think he is somewhat overrated.

Byron Scott has proved to be a very ordinary NBA coach who got plenty of time in New Orleans. Monty Williams is still there. Del Negro made far fewer questionable decisions the one year that Paul was his PG.

Who would you rather have Rivers or Del Negro?

cmorioles · #12 01-14-2014, 06:03 PM

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Byron Scott has proved to be a very ordinary NBA coach who got plenty of time in New Orleans. Monty Williams is still there. Del Negro made far fewer questionable decisions the one year that Paul was his PG.

Who would you rather have Rivers or Del Negro?

Honestly, I don't know. Rivers won with three great players in their prime. Does that make him a great coach? Again, I don't know. For the most part players make coaches. Are the Clippers any better this year than last? Doesn't look that way to me, but that could change come April/May.

Beside the point though. Paul used his influence and the threat of leaving to get Del Negro fired, that is all I was saying.

Duvalier · #13 01-14-2014, 07:21 AM

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He might end up being that, like I said a poor mans. I prefer winners. And if guys I like, example being Harden never win anything Ill say the same thing about him.

So you're a big Robert Horry fan?

RockHardTen1985 · #14 01-14-2014, 07:31 AM

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So you're a big Robert Horry fan?

What's not to love?
The guy was tough, played good D, rebounded OK and was as clutch as they come. Notable clutch shots for this dude range out over 10 years. Started in 95 for Houston in Western Conference finals at San Antonio. Ending in 2005 for the Spurs in game 5 of the finals against Detroit. With a ton of great moments in between.

RockHardTen1985 · #15 01-16-2014, 10:42 PM

Great OKC comeback. Should be a fun 4th quarter.

NTamm1215 · #16 01-16-2014, 11:14 PM

Incredibly embarrassing 2nd half performance by the Rockets. Wow.

RockHardTen1985 · #17 01-14-2014, 07:36 AM

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So you're a big Robert Horry fan?

Horry and Harden would have been great together.
Big shot Bob and Big game James together would have been special.

Duvalier · #18 01-14-2014, 08:23 AM

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What's not to love?
The guy was tough, played good D, rebounded OK and was as clutch as they come. Notable clutch shots for this dude range out over 10 years. Started in 95 for Houston in Western Conference finals at San Antonio. Ending in 2005 for the Spurs in game 5 of the finals against Detroit. With a ton of great moments in between.

Horry was as clutch as they come, but because he was on seven NBA championship teams, it doesn't make him better than guys who never got a ring. You seem to think only guys who won rings are worth anything...it's not that simple. How would you compare Horry to Barkley and Ewing?

Cannon Shell · #19 01-14-2014, 08:54 AM

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Horry and Harden would have been great together.
Big shot Bob and Big game James together would have been special.

Exactly what big games of note does James Harden have? I remember the one chance he had in the Finals he played poorly. 16-48 from the field in the series against Miami.

Cannon Shell · #20 01-14-2014, 08:57 AM

Big Shot Bob averaged 7 points and 4 rebounds a game for his career.