2013-2014 NBA Season

Cannon Shell · #1 01-14-2014, 08:54 AM

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Horry and Harden would have been great together.
Big shot Bob and Big game James together would have been special.

Exactly what big games of note does James Harden have? I remember the one chance he had in the Finals he played poorly. 16-48 from the field in the series against Miami.

Cannon Shell · #2 01-14-2014, 08:57 AM

Big Shot Bob averaged 7 points and 4 rebounds a game for his career.

RockHardTen1985 · #3 01-14-2014, 05:21 PM

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Big Shot Bob averaged 7 points and 4 rebounds a game for his career.

Bash a man with 7 rings but defend Melo? I respect you way to much to have such a bad opinion on this. You're a fan of Melo so your biased. I get it, I was a fan until I saw the light.

cmorioles · #4 01-14-2014, 05:31 PM

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Bash a man with 7 rings but defend Melo? I respect you way to much to have such a bad opinion on this. You're a fan of Melo so your biased. I get it, I was a fan until I saw the light.

Check out some of the guys that got rings with the Bulls. Big deal.

RockHardTen1985 · #5 01-14-2014, 05:32 PM

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Check out some of the guys that got rings with the Bulls. Big deal.

Of course, but he has 7.

cmorioles · #6 01-14-2014, 06:04 PM

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Of course, but he has 7.

Yeah, he happened to catch more than a few coattails to ride. He was clutch, but hardly a great player.

Duvalier · #7 01-14-2014, 06:09 PM

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Yeah, he happened to catch more than a few coattails to ride. He was clutch, but hardly a great player.

I think everyone would pretty much agree with this, except maybe Skip Bayless and his lot.

RockHardTen1985 · #8 01-14-2014, 06:10 PM

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Yeah, he happened to catch more than a few coattails to ride. He was clutch, but hardly a great player.

But I never called him great. I said he was an OK defender, OK rebounder and super clutch.

Cannon Shell · #9 01-14-2014, 06:06 PM

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Of course, but he has 7.

Steve Kerr has 5. Is he better than Chris Paul?

RockHardTen1985 · #10 01-14-2014, 06:09 PM

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Steve Kerr has 5. Is he better than Chris Paul?

No.

Cannon Shell · #11 01-14-2014, 05:52 PM

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Bash a man with 7 rings but defend Melo? I respect you way to much to have such a bad opinion on this. You're a fan of Melo so your biased. I get it, I was a fan until I saw the light.

I am hardly the worlds biggest Carmelo Anthony fan but this is more ridiculous than usual. So Robert Horry who basically was a bench player that hit a few clutch shots while playing cheap for good teams is a player to be respected but Carmelo Anthony who averages 25 points and 7 rebounds for his career, has never missed the playoffs in 10 NBA years, has been on 2 Olympic Gold medal teams and was MOP of the Final 4 while leading his team to an NCAA championship is a bum?

The irony here is rich considering that Anthony may be playing as well right now as he has ever played. But with a supporting cast like Kenyon Martin, Beno Udrich and Ray Felton who wouldnt play well?

RockHardTen1985 · #12 01-14-2014, 05:23 PM

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Exactly what big games of note does James Harden have? I remember the one chance he had in the Finals he played poorly. 16-48 from the field in the series against Miami.

I didnt make up the nickname.

NTamm1215 · #13 01-14-2014, 05:36 PM

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Exactly what big games of note does James Harden have? I remember the one chance he had in the Finals he played poorly. 16-48 from the field in the series against Miami.

He had an excellent series against SA in the Western Conference Finals the same year - 49% shooting, 18.5 PPG. Hell, his numbers for those playoffs altogether were strong - 44% FG, 41% 3PG and 16.3 PPG.

Cannon Shell · #14 01-14-2014, 06:11 PM

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He had an excellent series against SA in the Western Conference Finals the same year - 49% shooting, 18.5 PPG. Hell, his numbers for those playoffs altogether were strong - 44% FG, 41% 3PG and 16.3 PPG.

According to PG1985 only the Finals and championships count. He was one of the chief reasons that OKC floundered in the Finals. His games 3 and 4 were awful.

Interestingly during the playoffs that year his best games were all in losses.

RockHardTen1985 · #15 01-14-2014, 06:14 PM

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According to PG1985 only the Finals and championships count. He was one of the chief reasons that OKC floundered in the Finals. His games 3 and 4 were awful.

Interestingly during the playoffs that year his best games were all in losses.

OKC floundered because they ran into a better team. A team with 2 first ballot Hall of Famers, you and I both agree Bosh will be, and Ray Allen is first ballot. Plus Lebron is the best ever. They just played a better team. It was not Hardens fault.

cmorioles · #16 01-14-2014, 06:24 PM

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OKC floundered because they ran into a better team. A team with 2 first ballot Hall of Famers, you and I both agree Bosh will be, and Ray Allen is first ballot. Plus Lebron is the best ever. They just played a better team. It was not Hardens fault.

Ray Allen wasn't on that team.

See my post to Chuck. People act like Miami steamrolled OKC, when that is very far from the truth.

RockHardTen1985 · #17 01-14-2014, 06:27 PM

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Ray Allen wasn't on that team.

See my post to Chuck. People act like Miami steamrolled OKC, when that is very far from the truth.

Of course they didnt steamroll them OKC won game 1. Miami was the better team though, no? Maybe not much better, but Lebron was the X factor.

cmorioles · #18 01-14-2014, 06:31 PM

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Of course they didnt steamroll them OKC won game 1. Miami was the better team though, no? Maybe not much better, but Lebron was the X factor.

Lebron was Lebron, but what did the Thunder in was all the role players that seemingly could not miss a 3. Miller, Battier, Chalmers...

Like I said, every game except G5 came right down to the wire, and in games 3/4 Harden shot like 20%.

Cannon Shell · #19 01-14-2014, 06:42 PM

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OKC floundered because they ran into a better team. A team with 2 first ballot Hall of Famers, you and I both agree Bosh will be, and Ray Allen is first ballot. Plus Lebron is the best ever. They just played a better team. It was not Hardens fault.

Miami was the better team but in 3 of the 5 games Harden played poorly.

NTamm1215 · #20 01-14-2014, 06:15 PM

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According to PG1985 only the Finals and championships count. He was one of the chief reasons that OKC floundered in the Finals. His games 3 and 4 were awful.

Interestingly during the playoffs that year his best games were all in losses.

Most of his best games with the Rockets seem to come in losses as well. He is very selfish in close games, and aside from his defense, it is his biggest shortcoming.

The thought that championships are the only way to measure someone historically is the single dumbest thing in sports.