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![]() If treading water is your goal then do a victory lap. The numbers are lower in daily handle than they were 12 years ago, even at Saratoga. The objective is to grow the pie. If you are a business with the same revenues as 12 years ago, you aren't happy. To say the numbers are meaningless is....Podunk tracks will be the first to go. All the slots in the world won't save handle as pols can easily redirect cash away from racing when they want to....There is now a casino around every corner in the US. There is competition for every gambling dollar (and many are hurting) that people have....Yes the fact that handle has declined most everywhere is obvious....except that Las Vegas is at a new high in terms of visitors this year. And car sales are back to 2007 levels, etc....things are getting better. It just isn't translating to racing....What to do to fix it? That's it. If it doesn't matter then let's not publish the numbers at all.
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Racing's bigger problems IMO are the watered down payouts due to .50 P4 and Dime supers. Impossible to show a profit with $100 P4 payouts being the norm.. Just look at our selections forum. No One showed a profit playing Pick 4's during Saratoga and it wasn't because they weren't hitting them. A few years ago when P4's were at a buck you hit 3 or 4 and were able to show a profit for the meet. That isnt happening anymore but I am in the minority in my feelings for the .50 P4 and dime supers. http://gaming.unlv.edu/reports/6_month_NV.pdf |
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![]() One person was not happy with Saratoga it appears.
http://espn.go.com/horse-racing/stor...aratoga-season
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![]() I don't agree that Saginaw was the memorable moment of the meet. Sad yes, but that isn't what I will remember from it....Kay is surely green. Bore in bore out and wraps....needs a rest.
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Just more nebulous nonsense from BBB |
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The only intelligent argument I've ever heard for higher minimums -- like a $2 pick six for instance -- is that they're much more likely to induce carryovers. Even so, I'm a fan of the lowest possible minimum under every circumstance. And when one of these 50-cent Pick 5's carryover ... it's a great thing. There was a double-carryover on a 50-cent Pick 5 at Golden Gate earlier in the year that left a massive carryover into a Pick 5 on a day with all small fields and logical looking races. It was a situation where it was like welfare for horseplayers. Low minimums equal = much better value for bettors who don't chase after hopeless longshots, less IRS paperwork, less chances of withholding, and even some generous carryover situations across the country, for those bettors who try and be optimistic. I will never understand what JMS is talking about with this. |
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![]() I love races, where you get like a field of 10, and about 5 horses in the race are so hopeless, they just about qualify for the Bums of the day list.
If there is a 10-cent super offered, and the outcome of the super is very logical, you'll be shocked by how well it pays. I can't prove it, but I know a lot of people can't resist the urge to use the all button or throw stupid horses in underneath, when the minimums are a dime. I will actually try and look for these type of races on occasion. They're favorable opportunities. |
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If the rationale above were enough to influence the payouts, more logical series would pay better with all the blown coverage. |
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Also do think its a fair comparison to use in season perfect weather February Las Vegas to 110 degree middle of the off season summer? I would imagine its a rather consistent market trend in that weather climate.
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Not sure why, I can assure you the economy in the surrounding states is picking up.
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