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No and don't be.
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![]() So to be clear, the numbers this year were lower per day in handle compared to 2005, which by the way was lower than 2004 by 5% b/c of a gambling scandal....http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/06/sp...cing.html?_r=0
10 years later and no appreciable increase in daily handle for Saratoga and there is no concern and we can spin this anyway we want? All I said in the initial post was that it was a disappointment. I have no problem with NYRA and love Saratoga. But again it is nothing but defensive reactions regarding what is a weakish number. Just say that. |
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![]() And this comes off a spring/summer meet at Belmont with attendance down a staggering 14% year on year and handle on track which includes AQ/+rewards players down 10%....but if we don't mention it I assume it won't matter.
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I'm not going to have any debates with you here. I am at more than an unfair disadvantage, and throughout your history here it has been evident that you have your beliefs and they won't be changed. I wish you only the best, at the races as well as in life.
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![]() I play mainly turf racing and it seemed because of the lack of rain during the meet up to the last weekend made the turf course almost unplayable unless you had the ability to pick a lone speed type. I know it had an impact on off the pace types and I certainly passed a lot of races...
Probably just my issues...
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![]() Nope. I think the point is more about what the future of racing is going to look like. The fact that Saratoga is not immune is surely relevant.
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Are you just now figuring out handle has dropped in this country over the last 6 or 7 years? Or that handle is and has been moving off track? Saratoga's numbers this season don't show anything really. They are well within the norm of what can be expected. |
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![]() If treading water is your goal then do a victory lap. The numbers are lower in daily handle than they were 12 years ago, even at Saratoga. The objective is to grow the pie. If you are a business with the same revenues as 12 years ago, you aren't happy. To say the numbers are meaningless is....Podunk tracks will be the first to go. All the slots in the world won't save handle as pols can easily redirect cash away from racing when they want to....There is now a casino around every corner in the US. There is competition for every gambling dollar (and many are hurting) that people have....Yes the fact that handle has declined most everywhere is obvious....except that Las Vegas is at a new high in terms of visitors this year. And car sales are back to 2007 levels, etc....things are getting better. It just isn't translating to racing....What to do to fix it? That's it. If it doesn't matter then let's not publish the numbers at all.
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Handle on U.S. races up 4.7% in August, according to Equibase. Purses up 5.5%, and race days up 1%.
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![]() good!
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