Mitt Romney calls half of America freeloaders

[Thepaindispenser]

Originally Posted by Danzig

true, spending cuts need to be done as well.

romney wants to raise defense spending, already the biggest single budget item for the fed.

did you know it takes every other country in the world added together on defense to equal our defense spending alone? and he wants to raise it. why?

I agree Danzig cuts needs to come from everywhere including the military.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Thepaindispenser

I agree Danzig cuts needs to come from everywhere including the military.

then why in the world are you backing romney? he wants to grow an already costly bloated mess.

[Thepaindispenser]

Originally Posted by Danzig

then why in the world are you backing romney? he wants to grow an already costly bloated mess.

I dont agree with Romney on a lot of things, but I think Obama is the most dangerous President we have ever seen as far as threats to our liberty. I also think a corrupt stimulus, health care that majority of America didn't want that is killing job growth, enforcing business killing edicts through the EPA that he couldn't get passed in Congress, money thrown at big money donors with doomed business plans, funding corrupt public sector unions, etc. is a good way to grow an economy.

Trust me, Romney is lesser of two evils at this point. Big government has failed everywhere it has been tried, why would this country be any different?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Thepaindispenser

I dont agree with Romney on a lot of things, but I think Obama is the most dangerous President we have ever seen as far as threats to our liberty. I also think a corrupt stimulus, health care that majority of America didn't want that is killing job growth, enforcing business killing edicts through the EPA that he couldn't get passed in Congress, money thrown at big money donors with doomed business plans, funding corrupt public sector unions, etc. is a good way to grow an economy.

Trust me, Romney is lesser of two evils at this point. Big government has failed everywhere it has been tried, why would this country be any different?

On Aug. 31, the night after the Clint Eastwood empty-chair colloquy at the Republican Convention, Jon Stewart identified the radioactive ingredient that would provide the fuel for Mitt Romney's September meltdown.

The Republicans, he noted on The Daily Show, were suffering from "cognitive dissonance."

Like Eastwood, they were campaigning against a Barack Obama who was a figment of their imagination.

"There is a President Obama that only Republicans can see," he said. That Obama--the Muslim socialist foreigner--was "bent on our wholesale destruction."

The mad fact is, Stewart was only scratching the surface. We now know that Romney has been running not only against an imaginary President but against an imaginary electorate as well.

This is an electorate in which 47% are looking for handouts, don't pay income taxes and won't "take responsibility...for their lives."



Read more: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/ar...#ixzz2729flB89

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Thepaindispenser

I dont agree with Romney on a lot of things, but I think Obama is the most dangerous President we have ever seen as far as threats to our liberty. I also think a corrupt stimulus, health care that majority of America didn't want that is killing job growth, enforcing business killing edicts through the EPA that he couldn't get passed in Congress, money thrown at big money donors with doomed business plans, funding corrupt public sector unions, etc. is a good way to grow an economy.

Trust me, Romney is lesser of two evils at this point. Big government has failed everywhere it has been tried, why would this country be any different?

the first highlight-absolutely ridiculous hyperbole. the patriot act was put in before he took office. and most of the last four years are frighteningly similar to the previous eight.
and which corrupt stimulus? we've had several stimuli, not just obama's.
the healthcare-when you ask people about individual parts of that law, they like it. then when you ask them about obamacare, they don't like it. that is hilarious when you read it. and it's not what's killing job growth.
anyway, as for most of what you said, if not all, i don't know why you think things will change with romney.

he wants to spend more on defense, his tax cuts he talks about-more than one time i've seen experts say 'it will raise taxes on everyone but the rich' (what a surprise! ). and that's on the stuff they can get details on. most of his 'plans', no one has seen. and what i saw on the ryan budget-wow.

so i don't know what makes you think romney will 'be better'. he'll be different, but not better.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Danzig

the first highlight-absolutely ridiculous hyperbole. the patriot act was put in before he took office. and most of the last four years are frighteningly similar to the previous eight.
and which corrupt stimulus? we've had several stimuli, not just obama's.
the healthcare-when you ask people about individual parts of that law, they like it. then when you ask them about obamacare, they don't like it. that is hilarious when you read it. and it's not what's killing job growth.
anyway, as for most of what you said, if not all, i don't know why you think things will change with romney.

he wants to spend more on defense, his tax cuts he talks about-more than one time i've seen experts say 'it will raise taxes on everyone but the rich' (what a surprise! ). and that's on the stuff they can get details on. most of his 'plans', no one has seen. and what i saw on the ryan budget-wow.

so i don't know what makes you think romney will 'be better'. he'll be different, but not better.

How about a 1 time tax amnesty for individuals to move money from their overseas accounts to the US... Tax free of course.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by jms62

How about a 1 time tax amnesty for individuals to move money from their overseas accounts to the US... Tax free of course.

'i don't have to show tax returns, i have nothing to hide. trust me.'-mitt romney

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Danzig

'i don't have to show tax returns, i have nothing to hide. trust me.'-mitt romney

You mean, Mitt, we should trust you like when you lied and told Massachusetts voters that you filed as a resident so you could run for Governor, but you didn't really, you had filed as a Utah resident?

Romney has been caught in so many proven outright lies in his past campaigns and this one, he's disqualified from political office just for that reason alone - never mind the rest of his incompetency. That's one of the main reasons why I can't believe he got through the GOP's primary process as the winner.

[Thepaindispenser]

Originally Posted by Danzig

the first highlight-absolutely ridiculous hyperbole. the patriot act was put in before he took office. and most of the last four years are frighteningly similar to the previous eight.
and which corrupt stimulus? we've had several stimuli, not just obama's.
the healthcare-when you ask people about individual parts of that law, they like it. then when you ask them about obamacare, they don't like it. that is hilarious when you read it. and it's not what's killing job growth.
anyway, as for most of what you said, if not all, i don't know why you think things will change with romney.

he wants to spend more on defense, his tax cuts he talks about-more than one time i've seen experts say 'it will raise taxes on everyone but the rich' (what a surprise! ). and that's on the stuff they can get details on. most of his 'plans', no one has seen. and what i saw on the ryan budget-wow.

so i don't know what makes you think romney will 'be better'. he'll be different, but not better.

We have had stimulus before but not that big and not that corrupt. That was an $800+ billion dollar payout to the Democrats big money donors. It did NOTHING to help the economy.

Do you really think companies want to add workers now with the uncertainty of Obamacare costs?

Obama is a liar, he wants to raise taxes on any individual making $200,000 or more, which is not rich if you are living in New York.

Danzig, after Federal, state, city, local, and other taxes almost half of my paycheck goes to a corrupt government who helps themselves and their big money donor and they do not help the poor. Sorry I disagree with you, I don't want to send more money to these incompetent, corrupt morons. Do you really think they will pay down the debt with more revenue? I don't, they will just give more money to their corrupt pals who will stuff their campaign coffers in return.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Thepaindispenser

We have had stimulus before but not that big and not that corrupt. That was an $800+ billion dollar payout to the Democrats big money donors. It did NOTHING to help the economy.

Do you really think companies want to add workers now with the uncertainty of Obamacare costs?

Obama is a liar, he wants to raise taxes on any individual making $200,000 or more, which is not rich if you are living in New York.

Danzig, after Federal, state, city, local, and other taxes almost half of my paycheck goes to a corrupt government who helps themselves and their big money donor and they do not help the poor. Sorry I disagree with you, I don't want to send more money to these incompetent, corrupt morons. Do you really think they will pay down the debt with more revenue? I don't, they will just give more money to their corrupt pals who will stuff their campaign coffers in return.

yeah, i don't really want to send them more either. so, why would you want romney, who wants to raise your taxes?
and yes, obama wants to return the richest folks to their tax rate from before bushes 'temporary' tax cut-you know, the one that was going to induce the rich to create more jobs...but it didn't. that one.
yeah, i pay a lot of taxes too. but i'd rather we all return to the pre-bush cut then have it continuously extended for everyone.
and new york is a red herring. most of the country-200k for an individual is a lot of money. of course to romney, 200k is 'middle class'.

[Thepaindispenser]

Originally Posted by Danzig

yeah, i don't really want to send them more either. so, why would you want romney, who wants to raise your taxes?
and yes, obama wants to return the richest folks to their tax rate from before bushes 'temporary' tax cut-you know, the one that was going to induce the rich to create more jobs...but it didn't. that one.
yeah, i pay a lot of taxes too. but i'd rather we all return to the pre-bush cut then have it continuously extended for everyone.
and new york is a red herring. most of the country-200k for an individual is a lot of money. of course to romney, 200k is 'middle class'.

You really are comfortable sending more money to a bunch of corrupt scumbags (and yes I am talking about both parties) who enrich themselves and their big money donors??? I want to pay more taxes to support people like my uncle who retired as a teacher at 55-years of age with full medical benefits and a comfortable pension? I have no prayer of retiring at that age and he never had to worry about job security. Why did he get that deal?? Because his union stuffed the coffers of corrupt politicians who were supposed to be representing us hardworking taxpayers at the table.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Thepaindispenser

I dont agree with Romney on a lot of things, but I think Obama is the most dangerous President we have ever seen as far as threats to our liberty. I also think a corrupt stimulus, health care that majority of America didn't want that is killing job growth, enforcing business killing edicts through the EPA that he couldn't get passed in Congress, money thrown at big money donors with doomed business plans, funding corrupt public sector unions, etc. is a good way to grow an economy.

Trust me, Romney is lesser of two evils at this point. Big government has failed everywhere it has been tried, why would this country be any different?

based on what? i keep seeing this repeated, or i keep hearing it...but no one has details as to how romney would be better.

so, how would he be better? what of his plans do you agree with? how will he take care of these threats to our liberty? i already know he won't do a damned thing about big money. i know he thinks bankers should have free rein. he plans to raise taxes on most of us (the wealthy, like him, get a tax cut. again.).

what does romney plan to do that you like?

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Danzig

based on what? i keep seeing this repeated, or i keep hearing it...but no one has details as to how romney would be better.

so, how would he be better? what of his plans do you agree with? how will he take care of these threats to our liberty? i already know he won't do a damned thing about big money. i know he thinks bankers should have free rein. he plans to raise taxes on most of us (the wealthy, like him, get a tax cut. again.).

what does romney plan to do that you like?

1. Put People back to work.
2. Bomb Iran into the 4th century
3. Increase our defense spending.
4. Cut taxes...

And Above all
5. Cut the debt

I need 3/4 of a bottle of Woodford in me before the above sounds logical. How can Romney supporter not see that these items affect each other. Also you can cut corporate taxes to ZERO but it will have NO MEANINGFUL AFFECT ON JOBS. This isn't 1950 where that money will be used to hire new employees. A token number will be hired but the rest of the money will go directly to the bottom line and into the pockets of the dictators that run these companies. The government needs to legislate against outsourcing. It has to eliminate the H1B program that was put in place when unemployment was 3 pct. But they won't becuase the dictators that run our corporations are the ones that fund the cmpaigns of those that make the rules. There is no way out here.. None. You all may have a job NOW or a BUISNESS NOW but your customers are getting FIRED on a daily basis and it WILL have an impact.