Mitt Romney calls half of America freeloaders

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by Thepaindispenser

You are counting the fake internet economy bubble that Clinton was lucky enough to not have it burst after he left office? The little guys were the one left holding the bag while people like Mark Cuban own sports teams.

There is no proof that raising taxers produces higher revenue (in fact the opposite occurs) or helps the poor. There is no proof that raising taxes on the producers of the economy and having redistributed by a bunch of elitist, clueless jackasses who are putting their theories to use that they learned in the fake world of academia works.

You are calling yourself a libertarian with this post??????

Yes exactly.

Thanks again for proving my point.

It's real rocket science, so follow me:

When the economy is bustling along, tax revenues go up.
When the economy sucks, tax revenues go down.

It's a cyclical thing.

there is absolutely NOTHING that a president can do to change that, not by borrowing money to "stimulate" the economy, and certainly not by borrowing money to give away to the ultra-rich in the hopes that maybe, just maybe, they might throw us middle class peasants a crumb and create a job with it (which history has proven again and again over the last 30 years does not work either).

Nothing a President can do, by borrowing money, to fix this. Get it?

It get fixed by:

* getting out of unprovoked, unsubstantiated wars and uninvited occupation of sovereign nations.
* closing every single US military installation abroad unless by doing so creates a clear and present danger to our nation or our allies (ie. we don't need three military installation in Germany, they can pretty well fend for themselves.)
* legalizing and taxing the shi.t out of drugs and ending this 1 trillion+ dollar, 40 year old, failure
* legalizing and taxing all forms of gambling including sports gambling in all 50 states

there is just 4 ideas that would have this deficit cut in half in a year.

And that is straight up Libertarian, my friend.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

Yes exactly.

Thanks again for proving my point.

It's real rocket science, so follow me:

When the economy is bustling along, tax revenues go up.
When the economy sucks, tax revenues go down.

It's a cyclical thing.

there is absolutely NOTHING that a president can do to change that, not by borrowing money to "stimulate" the economy, and certainly not by borrowing money to give away to the ultra-rich in the hopes that maybe, just maybe, they might throw us middle class peasants a crumb and create a job with it (which history has proven again and again over the last 30 years does not work either).

Nothing a President can do, by borrowing money, to fix this. Get it?

It get fixed by:

* getting out of unprovoked, unsubstantiated wars and uninvited occupation of sovereign nations.
* closing every single US military installation abroad unless by doing so creates a clear and present danger to our nation or our allies (ie. we don't need three military installation in Germany, they can pretty well fend for themselves.)
* legalizing and taxing the shi.t out of drugs and ending this 1 trillion+ dollar, 40 year old, failure
* legalizing and taxing all forms of gambling including sports gambling in all 50 states

there is just 4 ideas that would have this deficit cut in half in a year.

And that is straight up Libertarian, my friend.

And why does everyone Anti Romney have to be accused of wanting to raise taxes. I am not for raising taxes.

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by jms62

And why does everyone Anti Romney have to be accused of wanting to raise taxes. I am not for raising taxes.

Exactly.

It's so simple it's stupid, but the sheep and the fringe freaks refuse to see it.

If one week I purchase something at the store for $5.00,
The following week, I get a 1.00 off coupon and pay 4.00,
The third week I don't have coupon and have to pay 5.00 again - Did the store raise the price??!!

The tax rates were what they were before the Bush plan was put in place to artificially "lower" them by borrowing money to pay for them.

They expired and should not be extended because we don't have the money for them, in fact we are 16 Trillion in debt, in part because of them.

Is that a call to raise them, or did the coupon simply expire??!!

[Thepaindispenser]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

Exactly.

It's so simple it's stupid, but the sheep and the fringe freaks refuse to see it.

If one week I purchase something at the store for $5.00,
The following week, I get a 1.00 off coupon and pay 4.00,
The third week I don't have coupon and have to pay 5.00 again - Did the store raise the price??!!

The tax rates were what they were before the Bush plan was put in place to artificially "lower" them by borrowing money to pay for them.

They expired and should not be extended because we don't have the money for them, in fact we are 16 Trillion in debt, in part because of them.

Is that a call to raise them, or did the coupon simply expire??!!

Raising the tax rates won't even come close to closing the deficit, that is not where the problem is.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Thepaindispenser

Raising the tax rates won't even come close to closing the deficit, that is not where the problem is.

Then how about ending the 2 wars that cost how many Trillion already and your boy wants us to get involved with Iran too... He Haw...

[Thepaindispenser]

Originally Posted by jms62

Then how about ending the 2 wars that cost how many Trillion already and your boy wants us to get involved with Iran too... He Haw...

Couldn't agree with you more on that one, we should be out of Afghanistan today.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Thepaindispenser

Couldn't agree with you more on that one, we should be out of Afghanistan today.

And Romeny wants to duke it out with IRAN.. I will vote against him JUST because he has that position. A republican can't cry about the debt and then want to get involved in another war. It is just not logical... A republican can't start 2 wars and then cry about the debt. A republican can't start the ball rolling on the bailouts and then cry about the debt simply because their guy who got the ball rolling is no longer in office.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Thepaindispenser

Raising the tax rates won't even come close to closing the deficit, that is not where the problem is.

true, spending cuts need to be done as well.

romney wants to raise defense spending, already the biggest single budget item for the fed.

did you know it takes every other country in the world added together on defense to equal our defense spending alone? and he wants to raise it. why?

[Thepaindispenser]

Originally Posted by Danzig

true, spending cuts need to be done as well.

romney wants to raise defense spending, already the biggest single budget item for the fed.

did you know it takes every other country in the world added together on defense to equal our defense spending alone? and he wants to raise it. why?

I agree Danzig cuts needs to come from everywhere including the military.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Thepaindispenser

I agree Danzig cuts needs to come from everywhere including the military.

then why in the world are you backing romney? he wants to grow an already costly bloated mess.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by jms62

And why does everyone Anti Romney have to be accused of wanting to raise taxes. I am not for raising taxes.

[Thepaindispenser]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

Yes exactly.

Thanks again for proving my point.

It's real rocket science, so follow me:

When the economy is bustling along, tax revenues go up.
When the economy sucks, tax revenues go down.

It's a cyclical thing.

there is absolutely NOTHING that a president can do to change that, not by borrowing money to "stimulate" the economy, and certainly not by borrowing money to give away to the ultra-rich in the hopes that maybe, just maybe, they might throw us middle class peasants a crumb and create a job with it (which history has proven again and again over the last 30 years does not work either).

Nothing a President can do, by borrowing money, to fix this. Get it?

It get fixed by:

* getting out of unprovoked, unsubstantiated wars and uninvited occupation of sovereign nations.
* closing every single US military installation abroad unless by doing so creates a clear and present danger to our nation or our allies (ie. we don't need three military installation in Germany, they can pretty well fend for themselves.)
* legalizing and taxing the shi.t out of drugs and ending this 1 trillion+ dollar, 40 year old, failure
* legalizing and taxing all forms of gambling including sports gambling in all 50 states

there is just 4 ideas that would have this deficit cut in half in a year.

And that is straight up Libertarian, my friend.

I agree with cyclical part. I disagree about tax revenue running along the cyclical part without it having anything to do with the tax rate.

I agree with all the other things you are saying.