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Old 02-01-2012, 12:20 PM
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They still have a $300,000 bill to pay in America, because the American healthcare system doesn't allow everyone - including elite athletes competing in dangerous sports - to be insurable here, let alone be able to afford huge copays for financial disasters.

Did you read the story? The family cannot afford to pay the bill. They were taking donations, so they wouldn't lose their house, future, savings, etc. Responsible people shouldn't suffer that.
There is no debtors prison and the hospital cannot sue them for things they do not own in this country. It is admirable that they want to pay the bill, but they are most certainly not going to lose anything in the process. Other than their daughter, who was a wonderful person and amazingly talented athlete that will be sorely missed.
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Old 02-01-2012, 12:24 PM
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There is no debtors prison and the hospital cannot sue them for things they do not own in this country.
So the hospital cannot put a lien on their house and accounts as they do for Americans, simply because they live in another country? But that means the hospital is still unpaid, thus we Americans will have to pay for her bill in our hospital costs.

Wouldn't it be better that she had been able to be insurable in the US? (purchase of temporary travelers insurance)

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Other than their daughter, who was a wonderful person and amazingly talented athlete that will be sorely missed.
Yes, that is so sad, to lose such a wonderful young person.
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Old 02-01-2012, 12:37 PM
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Wouldn't it be better that she had been able to be insurable in the US? (purchase of temporary travelers insurance).
She had the ability, she just didn't do it.

Too bad her Universal Canadian policy didn't cover her. But I guess to the canadian gov the universe in universal stops at the border.

Now Riot, how will the millions of illegals living here be handled under Obamacare. Will they:

1) Be required and able to purchase health insurance
2) Be subsidized for a policy if unable to pay
3) Be treated via ER as they are now
4) Be refused treatment

And while we're at it. Will Americans who refuse to abide by the requirement to have insurance

1) Still be treated at the ER w/o insurance
2) Be refused treatment

Because as you have stated ad nauseum there is no fine or threat of jail for not abiding so I tend to think a lot of uninsured people will simply ingnore the 'requirement'
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Old 02-01-2012, 01:03 PM
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She had the ability, she just didn't do it.
Really? Find a private US insurance firm that will write a travel insurance policy for an elite athlete competing in that dangerous sport, then let us know the cost.

Although I just realized: that will be available by the end of next year, due to Obamacares. The ACA exchanges kick in next year, and will be fully functional by the end. So there will be insurance companies (probably the non-profits on the exchanges) that will start writing high-risk policies.

People have said that the above provision, that of allowing non-profit insurance companies to enter the exchange market, will do for healthcare opportunity costs what Medicare currently does. As the non--profits don't have to gouge for a profit-margin (like Medicare, which is much less expensive to deliver than private insurance) - they will be able to undercut the for-profits markedly for both healthy and unhealthy patients.

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Now Riot, how will the millions of illegals living here be handled under Obamacare. Will they:
Just the same way they are now. They are here illegally.
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Old 02-01-2012, 01:12 PM
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Some of the non-profits have the highest medicare supplement premiums in the country. You're delusional as usual.
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Old 02-01-2012, 01:17 PM
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Some of the non-profits have the highest medicare supplement premiums in the country. You're delusional as usual.
Let's remove your useless bi.tchy snark, and try again:

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Some of the non-profits have the highest medicare supplement premiums in the country.
Yes. But that will change once the current competition environment changes.
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Old 02-01-2012, 01:26 PM
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It won't change and will eventually skyrocket because 'tards ( the ones you want to protect) won't get coverage and the expense will be added to the pool. The "tax" won't cover it

Now take your pro-Obama horses.hit and shove it, b.itch. I'm tired of your flouride-ridden drivel.
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Old 02-02-2012, 07:16 AM
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Let's remove your useless bi.tchy snark, and try again:



Yes. But that will change once the current competition environment changes.
I cannot believe that you would complain to a moderator about my abusive language yet use the same type of language in your posts.

You are a disgrace to disingenuous liberals nationwide. For shame.
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