They are kidding right?

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by Danzig

would you consider it a birth defect? it must be. and before anyone gets angry with me, i'm calling it that insofar as you're supposed to be a guy/girl, but your body's the opposite. it didn't form correctly. i don't mean it in a bad way at all, so i hope no one misunderstands what i'm saying. at any rate, people don't elect to have this surgery on a whim. i can't imagine how incredibly difficult it must be to know you're a man (or woman), but your body doesn't match.

And it's not like they make it real easy to get the surgery....there are tons of psych exams, observation periods, etc. Nobody is even ALLOWED to have this surgery on a whim, even if they want to.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

And it's not like they make it real easy to get the surgery....there are tons of psych exams, observation periods, etc. Nobody is even ALLOWED to have this surgery on a whim, even if they want to.

that's right. several years of therapy, etc lead up to the actual surgery. hormones, i don't know what all. and the dealing with family, friends, co-workers-aoo to be made right. it's not something easy, and it's not something i'd wish on anyone to go thru. there are children born practically every day who are not clear as to gender-so typically the parents and doctor choose boy or girl, and the child is raised as such. and sometimes, they get it wrong at the start, and those kids go thru hell.

[jms62]

I respectfully disagree, when there are life-saving drugs/procedures that are not covered I don't agree this should be. Sorry. We all would like everything covered yet when our insurance goes up we just blame Obama and the insurance companies.

[3kings]

Originally Posted by jms62

I respectfully disagree, when there are life-saving drugs/procedures that are not covered I don't agree this should be. Sorry. We all would like everything covered yet when our insurance goes up we just blame Obama and the insurance companies.

I don't usually wade in to the politics area but to point this out and say this is why we blame Obama and the insurance companies for high costs is beyond ridiculous. In the big picture the cost of this type of surgery (because it not that prevalent) is so small it is not deserving of even a mentioning. Transgender individuals deserve a chance at a better quality of life just like the rest of us.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by 3kings

I don't usually wade in to the politics area but to point this out and say this is why we blame Obama and the insurance companies for high costs is beyond ridiculous. In the big picture the cost of this type of surgery (because it not that prevalent) is so small it is not deserving of even a mentioning. Transgender individuals deserve a chance at a better quality of life just like the rest of us.

[SARCASAM ALERT] for chrissakes, read my upteen postings attacking those who blame Obama for everything including Caleeb's Posse getting stymied in the Southwest and costing me a few hundo.

[3kings]

Originally Posted by jms62

[SARCASAM ALERT] for chrissakes, read my upteen postings attacking those who blame Obama for everything including Caleeb's Posse getting stymied in the Southwest and costing me a few hundo.

Sorry I missed the sarcasm, it is hard to tell amongst all this liberal propaganda.
I learned my lesson, I'll stay out of here.

Good go Obama now gtfo, idiot.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by jms62

I respectfully disagree, when there are life-saving drugs/procedures that are not covered I don't agree this should be. Sorry. We all would like everything covered yet when our insurance goes up we just blame Obama and the insurance companies.

Sure it's not immediately saving a life but it certainly is life improving and in some cases life saving for sure. In a way I'd compare it to a deaf child getting cochlear ear implants and hearing for the first time or cataracts being removed allowing the patient to see again. It’s not a nose job or tummy tuck.

[SOREHOOF]

Just more proof of a fkd up world. Without delving into the psychology of the situation, The surgery itself seems a little like something out of a Mary Shelley novel.

What about people that were born a cat and just know it? Are they crazy or normal in this BRAVE NEW WORLD?

Answer: They are insane just like these people wanting sex changes. Put a camera on these f.uckers 24/7 and statistically there might be one out of a hundred where you would think they are normal.

It's b.ullshit. These people are pathetic attention whores. F.uck their plight.

[dalakhani]

Where is Nascar/nascar's wife?