They are kidding right?

[Honu]

Originally Posted by jms62

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41705893...news?GT1=43001

This surgery is about as elective as it gets.

Disagree.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Honu

Disagree.

Thanks for the well thought out reply.

[Honu]

Originally Posted by jms62

Thanks for the well thought out reply.

Your welcome, thanks for posting the article and your well thought out sentence that the surgery is elective, still I disagree.

[Antitrust32]

if you have private insurance that covers it.. whats the problem?

I certainly wouldnt want medicare/aid or taxpayer money paying for it.. but that is different than private insurance.

I would agree with jms that the surgery is elective, because its not like "we have to fix this hole in your heart or you will die" type surgery, or a ACL surgery.

But it is different than elective plastic "fix my nose, make by boobies perky" surgery. IMO. its a matter of your body matching your brain and feeling comfortable in life.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

if you have private insurance that covers it.. whats the problem?

I certainly wouldnt want medicare/aid or taxpayer money paying for it.. but that is different than private insurance.

I would agree with jms that the surgery is elective, because its not like "we have to fix this hole in your heart or you will die" type surgery, or a ACL surgery.

But it is different than elective plastic "fix my nose, make by boobies perky" surgery. IMO. its a matter of your body matching your brain and feeling comfortable in life.

Doesn't having private insurance that covers elective things of this nature drive up the cost of insurance for all of us?

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by jms62

Doesn't having private insurance that covers elective things of this nature drive up the cost of insurance for all of us?

Not as much as the dems stupid law did!!

but I imagine that this womans insurance doesnt cover boob jobs and all.

I just feel gender re-assignment is different from boob job / butt implant surgery.

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

if you have private insurance that covers it.. whats the problem?

I certainly wouldnt want medicare/aid or taxpayer money paying for it.. but that is different than private insurance.

I would agree with jms that the surgery is elective, because its not like "we have to fix this hole in your heart or you will die" type surgery, or a ACL surgery.

But it is different than elective plastic "fix my nose, make by boobies perky" surgery. IMO. its a matter of your body matching your brain and feeling comfortable in life.

The problem is these private insurers are doing everything in their power to not cover surgeries, cancer treatments, etc for people who absolutely need it.

These people don't need this surgery. It's not going to technically make them a man or a woman. It's just rubbish. Complete and utter rubbish. It should be covered right after plastic surgery. It's not needed and it won't make these people happy. It's an illusion.

This type of "news" is what's wrong with this country. And of course it was brought to you by one of the controllers of information. They want this article to divide us. And it is already doing that. I absolutely despise the people in support of something this ridiculous.

These people should be calling Jack Kevorkian. Because if they truly believe that the surgery will make their lives better then they might as well believe that they have multiple lives and can start over with the help of a bullet.

[SOREHOOF]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

The problem is these private insurers are doing everything in their power to not cover surgeries, cancer treatments, etc for people who absolutely need it.

These people don't need this surgery. It's not going to technically make them a man or a woman. It's just rubbish. Complete and utter rubbish. It should be covered right after plastic surgery. It's not needed and it won't make these people happy. It's an illusion.

This type of "news" is what's wrong with this country. And of course it was brought to you by one of the controllers of information. They want this article to divide us. And it is already doing that. I absolutely despise the people in support of something this ridiculous.

These people should be calling Jack Kevorkian. Because if they truly believe that the surgery will make their lives better then they might as well believe that they have multiple lives and can start over with the help of a bullet.

Just as much to divide as to distract. The Debter-in-Chief plans to reduce the debt by increasing the debt. Sounds as logical as balls on a... oops forget it.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by SOREHOOF

Just as much to divide as to distract. The Debter-in-Chief plans to reduce the debt by increasing the debt. Sounds as logical as balls on a... oops forget it.

WTF thats something I'd expect of Nascar taking a shot at Obama on a totally unrelated topic...

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Honu

Your welcome, thanks for posting the article and your well thought out sentence that the surgery is elective, still I disagree.

No problem, I certainly understand your position though. If I were also considering this surgery I'd probably also would feel the same way as you. My thinking is that it is as elective as a nose job or dental implants both under the right circumstances are more than cosmetic. Are there doctors that out there that recommend this as a course of action and if so what malady is it treating?

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by jms62

No problem, I certainly understand your position though. If I were also considering this surgery I'd probably also would feel the same way as you. My thinking is that it is as elective as a nose job or dental implants both under the right circumstances are more than cosmetic. Are there doctors that out there that recommend this as a course of action and if so what malady is it treating?

my boss just had dental implants and they were considered elective by our insurance non-providor.

see my previous post for my thoughts on gender surgery though!

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

my boss just had dental implants and they were considered elective by our insurance non-providor.

see my previous post for my thoughts on gender surgery though!

My point was for someone with say bruxis
m, dental implants are more than cosmetic but in most cases they are cosmetic.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by jms62

My point was for someone with say bruxis
m, dental implants are more than cosmetic but in most cases they are cosmetic.

do you think that most gender surgerys are cosmetic? I dont think its about looking better, but feeling comfortable in your body.