Obama - "I will not apologize for the Bergdahl swap"

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by Danzig

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_a...e_neocons.html

I'm no fan of any of these clowns, and still want to know why Chaney and Rumsfeld were not held accountable for convincing a standing president that an invasion of a sovereign nation was required ensure our security when there was no basis in fact to support this nonsensical notion.

That said, was Paul Wolfowitz not the Under Secretary of Defense, serving under Rumsfeld during this period of time the author is purporting?

The DoD is in the business of making war for fun and profit. It would be fairly difficult to find a non-hawkish lackey in that position.

Again- I hate all of these douches, but to compare his knowledge of the region to that of Michael Brown's disaster preparedness knowledge, is absurd.

It's really another reason why these Slate "hit pieces" never garner the attention they should.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

I'm no fan of any of these clowns, and still want to know why Chaney and Rumsfeld were not held accountable for convincing a standing president that an invasion of a sovereign nation was required ensure our security when there was no basis in fact to support this nonsensical notion.

That said, was Paul Wolfowitz not the Under Secretary of Defense, serving under Rumsfeld during this period of time the author is purporting?

The DoD is in the business of making war for fun and profit. It would be fairly difficult to find a non-hawkish lackey in that position.

Again- I hate all of these douches, but to compare his knowledge of the region to that of Michael Brown's disaster preparedness knowledge, is absurd.

It's really another reason why these Slate "hit pieces" never garner the attention they should.

i just really wish they'd quit with the constant war-mongering already. but, i guess the dod and all their corporate buddies have to keep beating the war drums to justify all their military spending.

[bigrun]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

I'm no fan of any of these clowns, and still want to know why Chaney and Rumsfeld were not held accountable for convincing a standing president that an invasion of a sovereign nation was required ensure our security when there was no basis in fact to support this nonsensical notion.

That said, was Paul Wolfowitz not the Under Secretary of Defense, serving under Rumsfeld during this period of time the author is purporting?

The DoD is in the business of making war for fun and profit. It would be fairly difficult to find a non-hawkish lackey in that position.

Again- I hate all of these douches, but to compare his knowledge of the region to that of Michael Brown's disaster preparedness knowledge, is absurd.

It's really another reason why these Slate "hit pieces" never garner the attention they should.

Wolfowitz,Kristol,Feith the architects of the plan to invade Iraq..with Darth Vader as Manager..
Their task was to develop reasons to invade Iraq.

Saddam gassed his own people.(so what!..anybody here shed tears or giva schit)

He's a threat to U.S. security..(Couldn't hit Israeal with scud missles in Gulf war)

Bought yellowcake from Niger...False..

Top reason..Had arsenal of WMD's...Couldn't find ONE!

Dumya should have his Dad's book on why he didn't advance to Baghdad in the Golf war after we expelled Iraq from Kuwait

[bigrun]

One of my favorite quotes.

'When Bush stood with his arm around a NY fireman after the 9/11 attacks promising to find whoever did this to the nation, he was every American's president. His polls soared. He had a unique opportunity to unite America, to bring the U.S. together with allies round the world to fight terrorism and hate, to eliminate al-Qaida, to eliminate our vulnerabilities, to strengthen important nations threatened by radicalism. He did NONE of those things..He invaded Iraq!....excerpt from Richard Clarke's book..

[my miss storm cat]

Originally Posted by bigrun

One of my favorite quotes.

My friend he took what the intelligence community gave him, made a decision and acted.

This is what Presidents do.

Agree or disagree or whatever you want but try to remember those days right after 9/11 and the new kind of fear we were introduced to, that internal terror that was constant and unnerving...

He did what he though was right and, I would remind you, at the time? Most Americans agreed.

At least he had conviction, displayed leadership, and possessed the ability to make decisions.

[bigrun]

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat

My friend he took what the intelligence community gave him, made a decision and acted.

This is what Presidents do.agree..but the intel was coming from Darth and only when it was intel he wanted to hear..

Agree or disagree or whatever you want but try to remember those days right after 9/11 and the new kind of fear we were introduced to, that internal terror that was constant and unnerving..agree again...we were looking at any suspicious person or act..

He did what he though was right and, I would remind you, at the time? Most Americans agreed.Yes we agreed on action..but what action?**see note below

At least he had conviction, displayed leadership, and possessed the ability to make decisions.

**His action was invading afghan and bombing their terrorist camps..excellent!..instead of hunting down Osama and in and out of afghan in one year tops, what did he do?...Invaded a sovereign country that was no threat at all to us!

[GenuineRisk]

"Everything You Need to Know About 'Too Extreme for Al Qaeda' ISIS"

http://pando.com/2014/06/16/the-war-...qaeda-i-s-i-s/

Long read, but worth your ten minutes (how terrible that in a virtual world a ten-minute piece is "long"). Great background from someone who spent time in the area.

[geeker2]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

"Everything You Need to Know About 'Too Extreme for Al Qaeda' ISIS"

http://pando.com/2014/06/16/the-war-...qaeda-i-s-i-s/

Long read, but worth your ten minutes (how terrible that in a virtual world a ten-minute piece is "long"). Great background from someone who spent time in the area.

Really? I thought he was an internet nerd from Fresno.