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Old 05-08-2014, 10:39 AM
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I'm going to take a shot with a new shooter. Probably Social Inclusion.
He can certainly improve off his Wood effort, but getting caught by Samraat, who had every chance in the Derby and just wasn't good enough, gives me some concern about Social Inclusion.

He attended the pace and was hung wide early. It was a solid effort. But if the Derby pace wasn't strong, then neither was the Wood. But he made me more of a believer than his perfect trip GP efforts did.

I'm interested in Pablo Del Monte if I can get a big enough price. His BG effort was strong into a pace collapse. He had decent efforts on dirt at GP. May be a synthetic lover though.
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Old 05-08-2014, 01:36 PM
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He can certainly improve off his Wood effort, but getting caught by Samraat, who had every chance in the Derby and just wasn't good enough, gives me some concern about Social Inclusion.

He attended the pace and was hung wide early. It was a solid effort. But if the Derby pace wasn't strong, then neither was the Wood. But he made me more of a believer than his perfect trip GP efforts did.
The Wood was Social Inclusion's 3rd lifetime race. Beyer (and others) correctly predicted that he would be unable to handle the jump to a Grade I in his 3rd start. He was completely washed out before the race began.

Whether he can win the Preakness in his 4th start is open to question, but I think he'll be competitive with CC.

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Old 05-10-2014, 10:17 AM
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It looks like you are linking Social Inclusion washing out before the race with his attempt at a Grade I so early in his career.

If that is so, are you saying that if the race were a Grade II, III, or an unlisted stake, he would not have washed out before the race?
No, I didn't mean to suggest that. I'm saying that the more times a horse races, the less likely they are to find something new to over-react to. With just 2 previous races, any number of things could have caused the washing out at Aqueduct.

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