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[Danzig]

Originally Posted by joeydb

the term 'apropos of nothing' came to mind as soon as i saw the post. good job.

[bigrun]

Originally Posted by Danzig

the term 'apropos of nothing' came to mind as soon as i saw the post. good job.

[Danzig]

i'm curious to know exactly what joey thinks obama could have done, or should have done, that hasn't been done in regards to crimea and russia?

joey, what should we do as a nation? what should obama do as president? what would the proper responses to these actions be?

[joeydb]

Maybe Obama should do something other than saying "There will be consequences" followed by ... nothing.

In other words - if we're not going to do anything about it, don't rattle the sabre. That was the worst thing (barring being stupid enough to go to war with Russia, which thankfully he has not shown he is capable of yet) that he could have done.

He did the same thing regarding Syria and ironically it was Putin who bailed him out by brokering a "deal" regarding chemical weapons. Whether the deal was ever going to work was immaterial - he was embarassing the nation with his repeated "don't cross the red line" and then - once again - nothing.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by joeydb

Maybe Obama should do something other than saying "There will be consequences" followed by ... nothing.

In other words - if we're not going to do anything about it, don't rattle the sabre. That was the worst thing (barring being stupid enough to go to war with Russia, which thankfully he has not shown he is capable of yet) that he could have done.

He did the same thing regarding Syria and ironically it was Putin who bailed him out by brokering a "deal" regarding chemical weapons. Whether the deal was ever going to work was immaterial - he was embarassing the nation with his repeated "don't cross the red line" and then - once again - nothing.

She asked you in so many words what he should do. You are not even remotely trying to answer her question.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by jms62

She asked you in so many words what he should do. You are not even remotely trying to answer her question.

Draw another line?

This time try drawing it in rainbow colors?

Like I said at the start, this guy was so far over his skis he was bound to go down hard just like the jumper at the start of the ole Wide World of Sports.

[bigrun]

Originally Posted by joeydb

Maybe Obama should do something other than saying "There will be consequences" followed by ... nothing.

Right....Bush would have done something! thank goodness he's gone..

In other words - if we're not going to do anything about it, don't rattle the sabre. That was the worst thing (barring being stupid enough to go to war with Russia, which thankfully he has not shown he is capable of yet) that he could have done.

Yes, good thing he's not as capable as dumya...

He did the same thing regarding Syria and ironically it was Putin who bailed him out by brokering a "deal" regarding chemical weapons. Whether the deal was ever going to work was immaterial - he was embarassing the nation with his repeated "don't cross the red line" and then - once again - nothing

Right, he tricked Putin into dealing with the Syrians....and keeping our hands clean

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by bigrun

Right, he tricked Putin into dealing with the Syrians....and keeping our hands clean

Keeping Assad in power with all his weapons sans a small percentage.

Even though he stated if the line was crossed Assad had to go as well as all the weapons.

Wonder if when Barack tells his children to brush their teeth and go to bed he's happy with the mother in law taking over and telling them to use mouthwash and go to bed before the sun comes up.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by joeydb

Maybe Obama should do something other than saying "There will be consequences" followed by ... nothing.

In other words - if we're not going to do anything about it, don't rattle the sabre. That was the worst thing (barring being stupid enough to go to war with Russia, which thankfully he has not shown he is capable of yet) that he could have done.

He did the same thing regarding Syria and ironically it was Putin who bailed him out by brokering a "deal" regarding chemical weapons. Whether the deal was ever going to work was immaterial - he was embarassing the nation with his repeated "don't cross the red line" and then - once again - nothing.

except there have been consequences, with sanctions having been put in place, and assets frozen.

at any rate, what should have been said? what should be done?

or you can just admit that it wouldn't matter what obama says and does, it would be wrong and subject to criticism.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Danzig

except there have been consequences, with sanctions having been put in place, and assets frozen.

We 'theoretically' froze the US assets of 11 Russians (mind you Putin not among them) whose collective 'U.S. assets' likely amount to a small amount of change, not exchanged when visiting the USA, while Russia moved over a $100 billion of US T-Bonds offshore.

This not so brilliant move makes 'Cash for Clunkers' look like a burp.

[hi_im_god]

http://mediamatters.org/blog/2014/03...ade-fox/198322

It isn't Joey's fault.

You've got to know when to gin up your base and when to let them cool their jets.

He's just reacting to stimuli.