Horrific Newtown, CT school shooting

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

I have heard people say that they think restricting what types of guns people can purchase is a slippery slope that will lead to the destruction of certain rights. I disagree. The 2nd amendment is arguably open to more interpretation than any other amendment because the original intent is virtually inapplicable by modern standards. The "right to keep and bear arms" had everything to do with defending oneself from the government and/or his/her fellow man when they felt like their rights were being violated. The idea that people can stockpile assault rifles because of the 2nd amendment seems very silly to me. Restricting what types of guns can be made for legal purchase is constitutional.

I agree. We are already limited to what we can or cannot own. We didnt slide down any slippery slope when the assault ban was in force before.

[Rupert Pupkin]

"As a teenager, Adam Lanza would come in for a haircut about every six weeks without speaking or looking at anyone and always accompanied by his mother."

http://news.yahoo.com/stylists-lanza...215310243.html

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

"As a teenager, Adam Lanza would come in for a haircut about every six weeks without speaking or looking at anyone and always accompanied by his mother."

http://news.yahoo.com/stylists-lanza...215310243.html

I've been waiting for days now for you to chime in on this topic of banning assault weapons and this is the best you can do?

How many times has the story changed? First it was the brother who was the shooter and the media reported that, then it was the mother was a teacher at the school, now she isn't, then the mother is a prepper, now she isn't.

You simply DO NOT CARE. STOP ACTING LIKE YOU CARE. If you cared you would restrain from wanting the second amendment destroyed. But unfortunately your brain can't see that many angles and definitely can't handle trauma so you just let the television do the thinking for you.

jms you're just a troll like Piers Morgan who wants to demonize his fellow American for not falling hook, line, and sinker for your masters beckoning. You have enough sense to see through the bs of this storyline.

More coverage by reporters and investigators in the media on gun control than finding out what really happened at that school.

You people who want to take our liberties for the illusion of safety need to open up a history book that isn't state run.

This country is unique. Take our right to defend ourselves away and we're stuck with a government the rest of the world truly despises. A government that has bullied millions of people on this planet. A country where the borders are wide open and have been for quite some time. A country where 50-60 million food stamps are handed out each month and the CEO of the bank that is making it so warning us that his bank will be o.k....America might not be.

Absolutely brilliant. Low information liberals...the lot of you.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

How many times has the story changed? First it was the brother who was the shooter and the media reported that, then it was the mother was a teacher at the school, now she isn't, then the mother is a prepper, now she isn't.

You simply DO NOT CARE. STOP ACTING LIKE YOU CARE. If you cared you would restrain from wanting the second amendment destroyed. But unfortunately your brain can't see that many angles and definitely can't handle trauma so you just let the television do the thinking for you.

jms you're just a troll like Piers Morgan who wants to demonize his fellow American for not falling hook, line, and sinker for your masters beckoning. You have enough sense to see through the bs of this storyline.

More coverage by reporters and investigators in the media on gun control than finding out what really happened at that school.

You people who want to take our liberties for the illusion of safety need to open up a history book that isn't state run.

This country is unique. Take our right to defend ourselves away and we're stuck with a government the rest of the world truly despises. A government that has bullied millions of people on this planet. A country where the borders are wide open and have been for quite some time. A country where 50-60 million food stamps are handed out each month and the CEO of the bank that is making it so warning us that his bank will be o.k....America might not be.

Absolutely brilliant. Low information liberals...the lot of you.

Thanks for the compliment, I guess. Welcome back and please stay.

Thanks.

But really the storyline changes daily. Doesn't seem to matter that the media is being irresponsible. What matters is people see through it. Cable news ratings are plummeting...mainly because heartland America doesn't want to come home after a hard days work...oh who am I kidding? Most people who watch cable news don't work, and if they do work it's more than likely they're a barista or work in some hipster health food store that serves gmo.

What amazes me is how the same media can still manipulate the population to agree and support their agenda. You know, there was a time in this country when investigative reporting and ethical standards in journalism mattered somewhat. Why would any sane American want to give a government anything? Especially one that can't even decide on a budget, much less balance one. A government that selectively shows their outrage on tragedies. A government that didn't have multiple press conferences and attend religious services of the victims of drone strikes that we're responsible for as a country.

My reasoning why they didn't? They DON'T CARE!! There is nothing to gain by mourning the death of innocent men, women and children if they aren't American. In fact, we still deny any responsibility for the death of these people.

So knowing this, why would you want to give up your right to defend yourself, family, and property and hand everything that could protect you to an irresponsible government?

Sure semi-autos have been banned before. But when has a bureaucrat, once they've banned a certain type of gun, stopped pursuing all of them? A country of significance, not one of the small fufu countries that doesn't have a 5th world country next door.

Do you really think that a government in a country where just about every chronic health condition has skyrocketed the past 20 years really cares about our well being? Whatever. Keep shining, you cray cray diamond.

The storyline today seems to be the shooter basically didn't exist the past 3 years.

How can you not be on the internet? No trail? YOU REALLY BELIEVE THIS S.HIT?

Come on be smarter than this, people. For some of you I know that's an impossibility but most of you know better. It doesn't add up.

Notice how the picture they keep showing is of a child. This murderer is 20 years old. The Trayvon Martin trick...to get feels out of you. Mind/Control System.

It's real.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by jms62

I've been waiting for days now for you to chime in on this topic of banning assault weapons and this is the best you can do?

Where do you come up with this stuff? First, you call me a right-winger, then you call me a"bleeding heart liberal", then you accuse me of being a pot smoker, and now you think I want assault weapons banned. So far you've been wrong on every single one of your assumptions. I look at every individual issue separately. I'm basically a moderate Republican but you're going to have a hard time guessing where I stand on issues based on that. I'm left of center on certain issues and right of center on others. The fact that I like all animals doesn't make me a bleeding heart liberal. The fact that I'm not a big fan of hunters doesn't mean I want to ban assault weapons. The fact that I think marijuana should be legal doesn't mean that I smoke marijuana.The fact that I'm a registered Republican doesn't mean that I don't want Boehner to compromise a liitle more and make a deal with the President on the Fiscal Cliff.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

Where do you come up with this stuff? First, you call me a right-winger, then you call me a"bleeding heart liberal", then you accuse me of being a pot smoker, and now you think I want assault weapons banned. So far you've been wrong on every single one of your assumptions. I look at every individual issue separately. I'm basically a moderate Republican but you're going to have a hard time guessing where I stand on issues based on that. I'm left of center on certain issues and right of center on others. The fact that I like all animals doesn't make me a bleeding heart liberal. The fact that I'm not a big fan of hunters doesn't mean I want to ban assault weapons. The fact that I think marijuana should be legal doesn't mean that I smoke marijuana.The fact that I'm a registered Republican doesn't mean that I don't want Boehner to compromise a liitle more and make a deal with the President on the Fiscal Cliff.

You'd ban deer hunting before banning assault weapons. You can't make this **** up.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by jms62

You'd ban deer hunting before banning assault weapons. You can't make this **** up.

I don't know if I'm necessarily in favor of banning deer hunting. As I said before, if you have a situation where there is such an overpopulation problem that all the deer will die if the herd isn't trimmed, and there is no other viable way to trim the herd, then there may be no choice but to have some hunting.

Just to touch on something I was talking about in the other thread, if a guy hunts to feed his family because he does not like regular meat and he doesn't think regular meat is healthy, I don't really have a problem with that. But what percentage of hunters do it for that reason? I think the percentage is very small. I think most hunters hunt because they think it's fun. I don't know how anyone could look at a deer or any other animal, and think it's fun to kill them. Do you understand why I would be critical of someone who gets a thrill out of shooting an animal?

As I said before, if I lived out in the wilderness and every type of food option was available, I would probably catch some fish. I wouldn't enjoy it. I wouldn't do it for fun. I would do it out of necessity. If a hunter hunts out of necessity, I don't have a problem with that.

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

I don't know if I'm necessarily in favor of banning deer hunting. As I said before, if you have a situation where there is such an overpopulation problem that all the deer will die if the herd isn't trimmed, and there is no other viable way to trim the herd, then there may be no choice but to have some hunting.

Just to touch on something I was talking about in the other thread, if a guy hunts to feed his family because he does not like regular meat and he doesn't think regular meat is healthy, I don't really have a problem with that. But what percentage of hunters do it for that reason? I think the percentage is very small. I think most hunters hunt because they think it's fun. I don't know how anyone could look at a deer or any other animal, and think it's fun to kill them. Do you understand why I would be critical of someone who gets a thrill out of shooting an animal?

As I said before, if I lived out in the wilderness and every type of food option was available, I would probably catch some fish. I wouldn't enjoy it. I wouldn't do it for fun. I would do it out of necessity. If a hunter hunts out of necessity, I don't have a problem with that.

Here's my question on that....if someone is a vegetarian (I'm not) and they criticize hunters as engaging in wrongful behavior, I say fine. I may not agree with the vegetarian's criticism but at least I think they're being logically consistent.
What I don't understand is people who think hunting is disgusting and/or immoral but then go to the grocery store or a restaurant and buy up meat to consume and think that's perfectly fine. That seems odd.
Personally I don't hunt. But it seems weird for me to criticize those who do while I'm inhaling my chicken sandwich.