Horrific Newtown, CT school shooting

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i disagree. you can't take the position that most people who own guns are law-abiding, and then turn around and say that certain guns would become more popular if made illegal.

The law is not a constant. They are about to get more restrictive.

Some (not all) will not obey the new law. Nobody would get hurt any more than when the law was not in effect. The same guys who would not hurt anybody with an "assault" rifle still would not hurt anybody with that same rifle.

So good point on "law-abiding". The smart and determined will find a way to get what they want - though again, those kinds of people - the ones not of the sort to go hurt somebody with a gun - are not the danger in the first place.

This whole issue is degrading nationally to the point where people just want to see "something, anything" done so they'll feel better, even though the measures being proposed would not have helped avert this horrible crime.

And the professional politicians are acting more to further an anti-gun agenda rather than provide any real safety as a result of new legislation. And they know it.

As Rahm Emmanuel said, "Never let a crisis go to waste."

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by joeydb

The law is not a constant. They are about to get more restrictive.

Some (not all) will not obey the new law. Nobody would get hurt any more than when the law was not in effect. The same guys who would not hurt anybody with an "assault" rifle still would not hurt anybody with that same rifle.

So good point on "law-abiding". The smart and determined will find a way to get what they want - though again, those kinds of people - the ones not of the sort to go hurt somebody with a gun - are not the danger in the first place.

This whole issue is degrading nationally to the point where people just want to see "something, anything" done so they'll feel better, even though the measures being proposed would not have helped avert this horrible crime.

And the professional politicians are acting more to further an anti-gun agenda rather than provide any real safety as a result of new legislation. And they know it.

As Rahm Emmanuel said, "Never let a crisis go to waste."

no, i think most people understand that we don't need to do 'something'. big difference between a knee jerk reaction and common sense restrictions. only the ultra-zealous gun control folks are going to ask for a complete ban-everyone knows that won't happen.
by the same token, do we just say 'meh, can't do a thing'? no, no reason for that either.

[joeydb]

You know what's ironic?

For all the energy in debating this (which I much enjoyed - thanks), I'm probably not in the market for an assault weapon anyway.

But, saw this post out there, and apparently just the debate has really ramped up the gun buying.

http://denver.cbslocal.com/2012/12/1...al-gun-buyers/

OK, many fear a "slippery slope", but emotions aside for both viewpoints - I wonder how many more people will have guns by the time any ban is enacted, and if they are doing it in response to anticipated legal measures, how long will the ban take for us to "break even" to the number of soon-to-be-banned guns that we have today?