Obama Top 50 accomplishments

[ARyan]

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by ARyan

Damned data always gets in the way of propaganda and demogoguery...

[joeydb]

I'd be impressed if he can remember that there are 50 and not 57 states.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by joeydb

I'd be impressed if he can remember that there are 50 and not 57 states.

yeah, cause that's so damned important that it has to be brought up ad nauseum.

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by Danzig

yeah, cause that's so damned important that it has to be brought up ad nauseum.

The current administration can make anyone's stomach turn over.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by joeydb

The current administration can make anyone's stomach turn over.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by GBBob

[Riot]

Originally Posted by joeydb

Damned data always gets in the way of propaganda and demogoguery...

Hey, Joey? Hey, ARyan? No offense, but you guys are really looking clueless here. Perhaps you are simply unable to understand this?

For the third time, concentrate really hard here, and try to understand this reality:

NOBODY IS SAYING THE DEFICT HASN'T GONE UP!

Only pointing out that Obama has NOT caused a $5 trillion dollar increase. That is not true.

Obama's polices did NOT cause that debt increase. Obama has NOT added "$5 trillion to the deficit and debt" by his policies. That is false.

Obama's policies cost us $1.4 trillion through 2016.

Our paying interest, and basic costs, still, on policies from previous administrations still cost us money, we are still paying for them, we are still compounding interest on them.

Yes, the debt has gone up. The debt would continue to go up, no matter who was president. Why?

Because the interest on the debt compounds, and policies created under previous administrations, that were not paid for, continue to be unfunded and cost us money.

Are you guys really incapable of understanding this most basic concept about how money works?

Bush cost us trillions in unfunded wars, the cost of those wars extending out approximately 20 years well past his presidency. WE ARE STILL PAYING FOR THAT, WITH COMPOUNDING INTEREST! That is NOT the current administrations' fault.

Can you understand that concept?

The ongoing over-time cost of Bushes' wars, and unfunded tax cuts, did not magically stop the day he flew home to Crawford. Can you two not understand that?

Try this for help:



And see this for what has created that ongoing debt - hint, it wasn't the current President. If you want to know why the debt has increased another $5 trillion, put it in the lap of the right person, and stop trying to falsely blame it on someone else.

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Riot

Hey, Joey? Hey, ARyan? No offense, but you guys are really looking clueless here. Perhaps you are simply unable to understand this?

For the third time, concentrate really hard here, and try to understand this reality:

NOBODY IS SAYING THE DEFICT HASN'T GONE UP!

Only pointing out that Obama has NOT caused a $5 trillion dollar increase. That is not true.

Obama's polices did NOT cause that debt increase. Obama has NOT added "$5 trillion to the deficit and debt" by his policies. That is false.

Obama's policies cost us $1.4 trillion through 2016.

Our paying interest, and basic costs, still, on policies from previous administrations still cost us money, we are still paying for them, we are still compounding interest on them.

Yes, the debt has gone up. The debt would continue to go up, no matter who was president. Why?

Because the interest on the debt compounds, and policies created under previous administrations, that were not paid for, continue to be unfunded and cost us money.

Are you guys really incapable of understanding this most basic concept about how money works?

Bush cost us trillions in unfunded wars, the cost of those wars extending out approximately 20 years well past his presidency. WE ARE STILL PAYING FOR THAT, WITH COMPOUNDING INTEREST! That is NOT the current administrations' fault.

Can you understand that concept?

The ongoing over-time cost of Bushes' wars, and unfunded tax cuts, did not magically stop the day he flew home to Crawford. Can you two not understand that?

Try this for help:



And see this for what has created that ongoing debt - hint, it wasn't the current President. If you want to know why the debt has increased another $5 trillion, put it in the lap of the right person, and stop trying to falsely blame it on someone else.

And all of this data is why the President has ended Bush policies en masse and enforced his own fairness policies! Oh wait, he hasn't because despite what you want to believe, nothing has changed but the that is spewing the nonsense.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

And all of this data is why the President has ended Bush policies en masse and enforced his own fairness policies! Oh wait, he hasn't because despite what you want to believe, nothing has changed but the that is spewing the nonsense.

Was that supposed to make any sense? Just another vague, random "Hate Obama" rant?

If you think that "nothing has changed" between November 2008 and now, I beg of you - please do not vote.

Back to the subject: Nobody is disputing the debt has gone up. It would go up if we didn't have any president at all and didn't spend a dime.

That the RWNJ, including Joey and ARyan, have fallen for and keep repeating the blatent falsehood that Obama's policies caused all of it is why this country is currently an international joke - because that superior thinking has given us Mitt Romney as a candidate for president of the United States, and the rest of the adult world wonders what the hell ever happened to America?

Worse health care of any first world nation, only FW nation without universal care, most expensive health care of any first world nation, highest infant death rate, half our country near or at poverty, failing behind 10-20 other countries in reading, science, math, a religious taliban forcing their morality laws on everyone else, a political group denigrating and blaming the poor, homeless, starving. But hey! Let's look at Herman Cain and Michelle Bachmann for President! And hope to still be taken seriously in this world??

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Riot

Was that supposed to make any sense? Just another vague, random "Hate Obama" rant?

If you think that "nothing has changed" between November 2008 and now, I beg of you - please do not vote.

Back to the subject: Nobody is disputing the debt has gone up. It would go up if we didn't have any president at all and didn't spend a dime.

That the RWNJ, including Joey and ARyan, have fallen for and keep repeating the blatent falsehood that Obama's policies caused all of it is why this country is currently an international joke - because that superior thinking has given us Mitt Romney as a candidate for president of the United States, and the rest of the adult world wonders what the hell ever happened to America?

Worse health care of any first world nation, only FW nation without universal care, most expensive health care of any first world nation, highest infant death rate, half our country near or at poverty, failing behind 10-20 other countries in reading, science, math, a religious taliban forcing their morality laws on everyone else, a political group denigrating and blaming the poor, homeless, starving. But hey! Let's look at Herman Cain and Michelle Bachmann for President! And hope to still be taken seriously in this world??

I dont hate Obama, I dont even know the man, no one does he is completely inaccessible and does not care for politics, in the traditional sense of the word.
Hey let's look at a one term Senator with zero real world experience or any executive or military history to run the largest economy and military in the world. C'mon, comparing Romney to Far right psychos is wrong and you know it, he was Gov of the most liberal state in the union, this is called going along to get along.
It is too bad we are unable to compete with the other glorious western nations and their health and welfare systems as they grapple with 15-20% unemployment and rioting in the streets. If only we could grasp what it is that makes them so great and apply those concepts here, then we would not be an international joke. We could line up with most of Europe and beg Germany to save us too, sounds great, lets do that.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

I dont hate Obama, I dont even know the man, no one does he is completely inaccessible and does not care for politics, in the traditional sense of the word.

Oh for goodness sakes, seriously? What imaginary planet unhinged from reality do you live on? Hannity World?

And if you want to see rioting in the streets, please, elect Mitt Romney and the Republican European-style austerity financial plan - we'll be right there with Europe ***

Or look at the massive financial misbehavior of the Bush administration, and wonder why we are no longer even in the Top Twenty of the top nations of the world in all the things Bush ignored and fought against while he was busy starting wars to kill a generation of Americans.

Oh - and be sure and vote to overturn the basic start to healthcare reform and education reform Obama started - and get angry over the First Lady and her health initiatives for our kids - getting rid of that will pull us out of the gutter on healthcare and education, for sure!

*** While Europe dealt with the recession and financial crisis via austerity, our country did a stimulus. Gee - who is doing better today?

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by Riot

Hey, Joey? Hey, ARyan? No offense, but you guys are really looking clueless here. Perhaps you are simply unable to understand this?

For the third time, concentrate really hard here, and try to understand this reality:

NOBODY IS SAYING THE DEFICT HASN'T GONE UP!

Only pointing out that Obama has NOT caused a $5 trillion dollar increase. That is not true.

Obama's polices did NOT cause that debt increase. Obama has NOT added "$5 trillion to the deficit and debt" by his policies. That is false.

Obama's policies cost us $1.4 trillion through 2016.

Our paying interest, and basic costs, still, on policies from previous administrations still cost us money, we are still paying for them, we are still compounding interest on them.

Yes, the debt has gone up. The debt would continue to go up, no matter who was president. Why?

Because the interest on the debt compounds, and policies created under previous administrations, that were not paid for, continue to be unfunded and cost us money.

Are you guys really incapable of understanding this most basic concept about how money works?

Bush cost us trillions in unfunded wars, the cost of those wars extending out approximately 20 years well past his presidency. WE ARE STILL PAYING FOR THAT, WITH COMPOUNDING INTEREST! That is NOT the current administrations' fault.

Can you understand that concept?

The ongoing over-time cost of Bushes' wars, and unfunded tax cuts, did not magically stop the day he flew home to Crawford. Can you two not understand that?

Try this for help:



And see this for what has created that ongoing debt - hint, it wasn't the current President. If you want to know why the debt has increased another $5 trillion, put it in the lap of the right person, and stop trying to falsely blame it on someone else.

So, basically, since it's "not Obama's fault" and the deficit did go up, we can deduce that President Obama voted "present" ?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by joeydb

So, basically, since it's "not Obama's fault" and the deficit did go up, we can deduce that President Obama voted "present" ?

No. Not even close to what I said.

The part of the deficit that is from Bush policies, is his; the part that is Obama's (not $5.7 trillion) is his; the part from before both men is neither of theirs.

Again - the debt when Bush left was nearly twice the actual cost of his policies - WHY was that?

Same reason Obama hasn't been responsible for "raising the debt by $5.7 trillion"

Every president inherits ongoing debt from the previous president. You can't blame a president for policies and debt that is hanging around, due to the guy before him.

That's beyond absurd, but it's exactly what the superficial and shallow are doing with the false attempt to blame Obama for debt not from his policies.

And the non-questioning keep repeating it. It's wrong.

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by Riot

You can't blame a president for policies and debt that is hanging around, due to the guy before him.

.

You are ponderous with the "it's all Bush's fault". again.

He ran on a platform in 2008 that was highlighted by a draw down of military influence globally and a decrease in defense spending. He said that would bring the budgets "back in line".

He has not only not done this, but on top of everything else, ignored the constitution by deciding to go to war in Libya by himself, and increasing defense spending year after year.

5 Trillion in 3 years is on him and there is no way you are going to spin it to your deluded beliefs.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

You are ponderous with the "it's all Bush's fault". again.

I think you don't know what "ponderous" means. Better look that one up.

And I did not even say "it's all Bush's fault".

He ran on a platform in 2008 that was highlighted by a draw down of military influence globally and a decrease in defense spending. He said that would bring the budgets "back in line".

He has not only not done this, but on top of everything else, ignored the constitution by deciding to go to war in Libya by himself, and increasing defense spending year after year.

5 Trillion in 3 years is on him and there is no way you are going to spin it to your deluded beliefs.

The costs of presidential policies, extending into the future after the president's terms, is easily measurable and verifiable fact.

"Beliefs" have zero to do with it.

The statement that Obama's policies alone are responsible for 100% of all USA debt service over the past 3-4 years, that Obama's policies alone are responsible for the debt rising $5.7 trillion in the past 3-4 years, is demonstrably false and simply stupid.

It would be as stupid as saying Bush is responsible for 100% of the debt he inherited and was still paying off 2 years into his presidency from previous administrations.

Yes, Joey - Rush and Hannity and The Blaze and Erick Erickson and lying to you that 100% of the current debt in this country is due to Obama. It doesn't pass your own "simple math test" Stop believing their lie. THINK FOR YOURSELF There is no way you can continue to spin this with your deluded beliefs.