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Old 09-12-2012, 03:47 PM
Antitrust32 Antitrust32 is offline
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And that's why they are going after veterans. They know too much.
our own Homeland Security labeled veterans from Iraq and Afghanistan as likely domestic terrorists. Good ol' Janet Napolitano... another fine moment for the Obama Administration.


Patriot act... according to Congress... was supposed to save us from "terrorists". Guess how easy it is to change the definition of "terrorists"?

People are too worried about the definition of marriage.. or the definition of when life begins... that they dont worry that our own government will label you a terrorist and take away rights granted to you by the consitution if you dont think the way they do.

Sad thing is that neither guy elected in November will do anything to change this for the better. Taking away Americans rights is the only bi-partisan agreement our politicians have.
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Old 09-12-2012, 03:58 PM
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our own Homeland Security labeled veterans from Iraq and Afghanistan as likely domestic terrorists. Good ol' Janet Napolitano... another fine moment for the Obama Administration.


Patriot act... according to Congress... was supposed to save us from "terrorists". Guess how easy it is to change the definition of "terrorists"?

People are too worried about the definition of marriage.. or the definition of when life begins... that they dont worry that our own government will label you a terrorist and take away rights granted to you by the consitution if you dont think the way they do.

Sad thing is that neither guy elected in November will do anything to change this for the better. Taking away Americans rights is the only bi-partisan agreement our politicians have.
yeah, that act reminded me of the alien and sedition act from back when adams was president. it cost him a second term-but not bush! it's too bad that, just like in so many cases, the ones who do nothing wrong are the ones who pay.
it's a big mess, and won't get better any time soon. we need to step back from everything we've involved ourselves in. we need to really re-think our approaches to policy, both domestic and foreign.
pointman, above, mentioned egypt and libya and their govts-but my main thought on it is why should we care? why is it our problem? why did we ever decide to get involved in issues all over?

i just read napoleans bio, and part of his plam, and the french govts, was that they wanted to spread their revolution all over. look where that got him, them, and france.
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