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Old 09-02-2012, 04:38 PM
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The five points is actually the median bounce not the average bounce since 1964 and it is all about momentum which has clearly been in Romney's favor since Ryan was named VP. It is hard to believe that Obama will recover those points considering that they are trotting out the same old, lame politicians who will be talking about the same failed policies, plus the August unemployment numbers will come out less than 12 hours after this clown Obama gives his lying speech right off of the teleprompter.


Gallup's data dating back to 1964 indicates that presidential candidates gain, on average, about five percentage points in the polls immediately following their party’s convention.'

ok, you deny there's a 5 point bounce, i show that on average there is, and now you're trying to say an average you denied is suddenly the 'mean' number. hilarious.
and no, considering all that's been going on, things aren't clearly in romney's favor. he's an unlikable, unpopular nominee, for an unlikable and unpopular party. the only reason he's at all close in the polls is that things are not exactly going well in the country at present.
as for the teleprompter comment above, all candidates use them.
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Old 09-02-2012, 06:03 PM
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Gallup's data dating back to 1964 indicates that presidential candidates gain, on average, about five percentage points in the polls immediately following their party’s convention.'

ok, you deny there's a 5 point bounce, i show that on average there is, and now you're trying to say an average you denied is suddenly the 'mean' number. hilarious.
and no, considering all that's been going on, things aren't clearly in romney's favor. he's an unlikable, unpopular nominee, for an unlikable and unpopular party.* the only reason he's at all close in the polls is that things are not exactly going well in the country at present.
as for the teleprompter comment above, all candidates use them.**
*That about covers it...except he's good looking...and no, i am not gay..

**He used a teleprompter when he was sworn in, so say the repukes..
btw, he had to retake the oath because of Roberts mistake...

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Old 09-04-2012, 07:12 AM
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If you are going to use your average bounce theory then you need to look deeper into it instead of just throwing those lines out. In more than a few instances, the VP candidate was named going into the convention so the so-called post-convention also included the VP naming bump whereas Ryan was named well in advance of the convention.

Obviously I know all politicians use teleprompters, it is how stupid and uninformed Obama sounds when he doesn't use it. His alleged super intelligence is just another media creation. It will be fun watching him try to defend his record during the debates.

Everyone is talking about Romney's likability, what about Obama's? What is so appealing about an elitist, divisive, lying, uncompromising, corrupt fool like Obama?
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Old 09-04-2012, 07:52 AM
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If you are going to use your average bounce theory then you need to look deeper into it instead of just throwing those lines out. In more than a few instances, the VP candidate was named going into the convention so the so-called post-convention also included the VP naming bump whereas Ryan was named well in advance of the convention.

Obviously I know all politicians use teleprompters, it is how stupid and uninformed Obama sounds when he doesn't use it. His alleged super intelligence is just another media creation. It will be fun watching him try to defend his record during the debates.

Everyone is talking about Romney's likability, what about Obama's? What is so appealing about an elitist, divisive, lying, uncompromising, corrupt fool like Obama?
wait, you deny that the bump is typical, and then say others need to look into it? gimme a break. moving on...

as for likability-i couldn't care less about 'likability'. of course others may, but it really doesn't mean squat.
romney is a crappy candidate. obama is a crappy president. if you think romney is an improvement, i would have to completely disagree. imo, romney would be worse when one takes into account his thoughts on taxes, banking regs, defense spending and the like.

how would romney possibly implementing his ideas on those items be a step in the right direction? rather than discuss teleprompters and perceived intelligence, let's talk about the actual things that matter.
do you agree with romney on those key issues i mentioned? do you feel the banks should have less regulations, keeping in mind the current situation and how it came about with banks and deregulation?
do you feel defense needs a larger budget?
do you think the very rich need more tax breaks?
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Old 09-04-2012, 08:05 AM
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wait, you deny that the bump is typical, and then say others need to look into it? gimme a break. moving on...

as for likability-i couldn't care less about 'likability'. of course others may, but it really doesn't mean squat.
romney is a crappy candidate. obama is a crappy president. if you think romney is an improvement, i would have to completely disagree. imo, romney would be worse when one takes into account his thoughts on taxes, banking regs, defense spending and the like.

how would romney possibly implementing his ideas on those items be a step in the right direction? rather than discuss teleprompters and perceived intelligence, let's talk about the actual things that matter.
do you agree with romney on those key issues i mentioned? do you feel the banks should have less regulations, keeping in mind the current situation and how it came about with banks and deregulation?
do you feel defense needs a larger budget?
do you think the very rich need more tax breaks?
When someone talks about getting the defecit under control, cutting taxes and in the next sentence about entering conflict in Syria and Iran and increasing the military budget it should throw up all kinds of red flags as the basic math makes no sense whatsoever.
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Old 09-04-2012, 10:24 AM
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thelotiondispenser is going to be A.W.O.L after the polls slap him upside the head repeatedly this weekend.

Not to worry, he'll get right back to fluffing them polls.
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Old 09-04-2012, 05:27 PM
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thelotiondispenser is going to be A.W.O.L after the polls slap him upside the head repeatedly this weekend.

Not to worry, he'll get right back to fluffing them polls.
Who needs to fluff polls? Who even cares about the polls right now? This election is a reprise of 1980. Libtards like Riot thought that Carter would win that election right up until election day. But the fact of the matter is that Obama has been a colossal failure and is clearly in over his head.

Many Democrats won't come out and say it, but when it comes time to pull the lever, they will not be able to bring themselves to vote for four more years of taking this country into the $hitter. Obama has run the most divisive campaign of an incumbant that I can remember, he can only attempt to malign his opposition because he cannot support his positions.

Watching these diehard Obama fans think they even have a snowballs chance is humerous and it will be funny when he gets the same type of trouncing on election night that Carter did, when Americans come to realize that regardless of what Romney offers it has to be better than what the fool who is currently President offers and that he needs to be shoved off into history just like Carter so we can debate who was the worst President in this country's history, Carter or Obama. Personally, I am leaning to the latter.
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When someone talks about getting the defecit under control, cutting taxes and in the next sentence about entering conflict in Syria and Iran and increasing the military budget it should throw up all kinds of red flags as the basic math makes no sense whatsoever.
yep, i agree completely. but some here don't care about any of that, they just want a change-but imo it would be a change for the worse.
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Old 09-04-2012, 04:45 PM
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Danzig, the Republicans are an unpopular party??? As opposed to the popular Democrats??? Have you been in this country the last four years? Were you in a cocoon in November of 2010??? Do you think it is normal for a challenger to be tied with the incumbent 2 months before the election? Even Carter was still 4 points ahead of Reagan at this same point in 1980.

If you want a repeat of the last four years as Obama makes moe executive branch power grabs while exerting more power over your life then go ahead and vote Obama.
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Old 09-04-2012, 05:28 PM
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yep, i agree completely. but some here don't care about any of that, they just want a change-but imo it would be a change for the worse.
That is exactly the change that we got four years ago, change for the worse. People now need hope, which Obama did not bring, and change, change from the failed policies he has and wants to implement. Most will realize that whatever Romney does, it cannot be worse than what Obama has done.
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