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Old 09-05-2012, 02:29 PM
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I love the dems disingenuous claim of 4.5 million jobs created in the past 4 years.

Well, yes, you cannot say its a lie, because there have been 4.5 million jobs created. Just happens that 4.2 million jobs were also lost. There has been a net gain of 300,000 jobs... aka 0.1% of the American population.

Way to be dishonest and not lie at the same time. I believe that is what Democrats do best.
I had what I truly believe was a fine meet at Saratoga this year. During the 5th week I made several thousand dollars, far better than I did in the 5th week of 2011. Troughout the meet, I cashed thousands more in winning tickets. I'm so wonderful.

Footnote - total losses significantly exceeded total winnings...
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Old 09-05-2012, 02:47 PM
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I had what I truly believe was a fine meet at Saratoga this year. During the 5th week I made several thousand dollars, far better than I did in the 5th week of 2011. Troughout the meet, I cashed thousands more in winning tickets. I'm so wonderful.

Footnote - total losses significantly exceeded total winnings...
This is the politics forum, have you not learned yet that math is unwelcome here.
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Old 09-05-2012, 02:53 PM
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I had what I truly believe was a fine meet at Saratoga this year. During the 5th week I made several thousand dollars, far better than I did in the 5th week of 2011. Troughout the meet, I cashed thousands more in winning tickets. I'm so wonderful.

Footnote - total losses significantly exceeded total winnings...
Yes, well, cute analogy, but the comparison of the jobs numbers we are talking about would indeed be considered the entire meet results, your net, not just a week.

Nice try, but way off on the analogy attempt.
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Old 09-05-2012, 03:00 PM
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Yes, well, cute analogy, but the comparison of the jobs numbers we are talking about would indeed be considered the entire meet results, your net, not just a week.

Nice try, but way off on the analogy attempt.
No it is not, you are not including the loss in public sector jobs. Stop your consistent lying and attempts to manipulate the statistics in a direction positive for Obama.
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Old 09-05-2012, 03:08 PM
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No it is not, you are not including the loss in public sector jobs. Stop your consistent lying and attempts to manipulate the statistics in a direction positive for Obama.
What nonsense. Of course it's not a good analogy I don't have to "manipulate" anything - the facts are what they are. I addressed public sector jobs in the other post - and yes, there is still an overall jobs gain, in spite of the Republican Governors massively decimating public sector jobs these past few years.

Any attempt to paint the Obama administration as "bad on jobs" is beyond factually absurd.
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Old 09-05-2012, 03:02 PM
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Yes, well, cute analogy, but the comparison of the jobs numbers we are talking about would indeed be considered the entire meet results, your net, not just a week.

Nice try, but way off on the analogy attempt.
Main point is that 4.5M number is some twisted spin. Embarassing actually.
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Old 09-05-2012, 03:04 PM
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Main point is that 4.5M number is some twisted spin. Embarassing actually.
It is more embarrassing when the actual number is that there are less people working today than when Obama took office when you include all jobs, not just the ones that the Democrats want to count and not selecting the best starting point (which was the lowest number of people working during the Obama administration) and comparing it to today. That is a fact.
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Old 09-05-2012, 03:05 PM
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Main point is that 4.5M number is some twisted spin. Embarassing actually.

It's not twisted at all. 4.5 million jobs were created. As we were 3.8 million down from where we should have been, due to the Bush recession and massive job loss during those eight years, yes, those jobs initially had to fill in that massive Bush loss, and now we are trying to keep building back upon it. Hardly spin. Everyone know we were in a financial collapse and massive recession, with 800,000 jobs a month loss at the end of the Bush term. That's no "secret" or "spin.

Of course they get credit for creating those jobs - especially in the face of complete governmental obstruction. Don't forget one political party chose and planned to throw the citizens of this country under the bus, in order to try and gain back power.
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Old 09-05-2012, 05:57 PM
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It's not twisted at all. 4.5 million jobs were created. As we were 3.8 million down from where we should have been, due to the Bush recession and massive job loss during those eight years, yes, those jobs initially had to fill in that massive Bush loss, and now we are trying to keep building back upon it. Hardly spin. Everyone know we were in a financial collapse and massive recession, with 800,000 jobs a month loss at the end of the Bush term. That's no "secret" or "spin.

Of course they get credit for creating those jobs - especially in the face of complete governmental obstruction. Don't forget one political party chose and planned to throw the citizens of this country under the bus, in order to try and gain back power.
Even CNN said they all lied last night.....Also, what is the quality of these "jobs" that have been created.
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Old 09-05-2012, 06:00 PM
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Even CNN said they all lied last night.....
No, that's not what CNN was saying last night.

Reality. Get a grip on reality.
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No, that's not what CNN was saying last night.

Reality. Get a grip on reality.
Yes, it is what they said.....I watch the liberal channels because I am a fact checker, it's what I do. They said that there has been a net loss of jobs during his administration....Period.
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No, that's not what CNN was saying last night.

Reality. Get a grip on reality.
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