On the trail?

[tjfla]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

So, you think Pat Byrne should have tried to get some more Graded Stakes in his first start and then either rest him up to the Derby or run in Allowance races for the next few months? This is nonsensical. His horse was making his first start of the year. He is well spaced for two more preps. If he doesn't get enough earnings, a second and third will easily accomplish this, then he won't be in the Derby. I highly doubt he will be whining in that case ( frankly, Pat never struck me as a whiner anyway ).

Well if I was TCI trainer I would have ran him in the Sam Davis OR Holy Bull,get some earnings then either go onto the TB Derby and the Illinois or poly race.

My point is if u have a chance to get some earnings early get it!!! I know that alot of people say if he doesnt run good in March or his last prep race he doesnt deserve to go BUT I would rather put some money on TCI who runs 3rd in the Illinois Derby than one of the Turf/Poly horses like Mr.Prankster LOL. I KNOW I KNOW Animal Kingdom won last year

Just look at what Asmussen is doing with Sabercat-he got his money,now he is gonna run him 2 times before the Derby and cross his fingers nothing happens before then. I would rather take that chance nowadays then run him 3 or 4 times before the Derby

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by tjfla

Well if I was TCI trainer I would have ran him in the Sam Davis OR Holy Bull,get some earnings then either go onto the TB Derby and the Illinois or poly race.

My point is if u have a chance to get some earnings early get it!!! I know that alot of people say if he doesnt run good in March or his last prep race he doesnt deserve to go BUT I would rather put some money on TCI who runs 3rd in the Illinois Derby than one of the Turf/Poly horses like Mr.Prankster LOL. I KNOW I KNOW Animal Kingdom won last year

Just look at what Asmussen is doing with Sabercat-he got his money,now he is gonna run him 2 times before the Derby and cross his fingers nothing happens before then. I would rather take that chance nowadays then run him 3 or 4 times before the Derby

You'd make a great modern day trainer. Why should horses have to prove they belong in the Derby? If they have the earnings just run them...

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

You'd make a great modern day trainer. Why should horses have to prove they belong in the Derby? If they have the earnings just run them...

i agree. it seems horses who build up tend to do better than those who get earnings early on and then stroll into the derby. they have the money, but they don't have the 'bottom' to use an old expression.
with the advent of the bcj, it seems people are asking horses to go too far too soon. precocious horses excel, but then are caught by their peers the following spring. so, some have the earnings, but not the ability.


it's why only 3 yo earnings should count for getting in the gate in may.

[RolloTomasi]

More ignorant trainers at play tomorrow at Santa Anita.

Bob Baffert and Mike Puype are pitting their hyped 3yos the Fed Biz and Consulado against one another in a meager allowance race.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

More ignorant trainers at play tomorrow at Santa Anita.

Bob Baffert and Mike Puype are pitting their hyped 3yos the Fed Biz and Consulado against one another in a meager allowance race.

Morons.

That Baffert really needs to learn how to get a horse eligible for the Derby.