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Old 01-27-2012, 12:36 PM
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O i agree with u there,just doesn't make sense.However if u are pointed to the Derby,its easy RUN EARLY GET MONEY and RELAX lol

I just get a laugh when April 28 rolls around and we have people crying that they can't get in the Derby cause of Graded Earnings and turf horses who won Poly races.
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Old 01-27-2012, 01:22 PM
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well, maybe they aren't on the trail? or maybe their trainers are working their ways up, and if the horse shows more ability, he has graded stakes still to enter?
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Old 01-27-2012, 03:10 PM
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O i agree with u there,just doesn't make sense.However if u are pointed to the Derby,its easy RUN EARLY GET MONEY and RELAX lol

I just get a laugh when April 28 rolls around and we have people crying that they can't get in the Derby cause of Graded Earnings and turf horses who won Poly races.
Peaking in January and taking it easy in the weeks leading up to the Triple Crown doesn't make sense, either.

People who cry about Blue Grass, Jim Beam, and Lexington horses getting in have a fairly valid gripe.
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Old 01-27-2012, 03:18 PM
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Nah Bogey was right-all of them said they wanted to run 2 turns and not have to travel to TB. Seems all 3 of the plans are Allowance and FOY

So the FOY might look like this

Hansen
Union Rags
TCI
Casual Trick
El Padrino
Top 3 Holy
Top 3 Holy
Reveron

True it's not a good idea but seems to work. Get cash early/avoid the injury bug and run in the Derby-which is Asmussen's plan for Sabercat
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Old 01-27-2012, 03:24 PM
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Nah Bogey was right-all of them said they wanted to run 2 turns and not have to travel to TB. Seems all 3 of the plans are Allowance and FOY

So the FOY might look like this

Hansen
Union Rags
TCI
Casual Trick
El Padrino
Top 3 Holy
Top 3 Holy
Reveron

True it's not a good idea but seems to work. Get cash early/avoid the injury bug and run in the Derby-which is Asmussen's plan for Sabercat
This isnt a strategy, it is a prayer.
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Old 02-06-2012, 03:16 PM
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Byrne is now trying to figure out what to do with Take Charge Indy,he is in a DRF article saying I should have taken him to Tampa to get earnings HAHA

Mentions a TB Derby to Illinois Derby to KY Derby as his route
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Old 02-07-2012, 09:55 AM
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Byrne is now trying to figure out what to do with Take Charge Indy,he is in a DRF article saying I should have taken him to Tampa to get earnings HAHA

Mentions a TB Derby to Illinois Derby to KY Derby as his route
I'd love to know what all of three trainers were thinking skipping the Sam F Davis... You've got a maiden (who wasn't even the m/l fav in the mdn race he was cross-entered in) with 150K in graded earnings, practically a bubble horse already to get in, and they're now going to need 2 quality starts just to get the earnings to enter.
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Old 02-07-2012, 11:45 AM
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Doesn't Take Charge Indy already have about $100k in graded earnings?

What's the rush? With 3 straight defeats in graded stakes as a juvenile, he still has to prove he belongs. Doubt the Sam F. Davis would have answered that question.
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Old 01-27-2012, 03:22 PM
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O i agree with u there,just doesn't make sense.However if u are pointed to the Derby,its easy RUN EARLY GET MONEY and RELAX lol

I just get a laugh when April 28 rolls around and we have people crying that they can't get in the Derby cause of Graded Earnings and turf horses who won Poly races.
If more trainers did this we would have more good 3 year olds around after April. If you are eligible for an allowance race in late January and dont earn enough to get into the Derby it simply means you dont belong. Far too many owners/trainers agree with your theory which is why most of them wind up ruining their horses. It isnt a coincidence that fillies are HoY every year now and the Spring's top 3 yo's are generally toast by the Summer. Hell Flat Out was lucky enough to break down early enough that he could be salvaged as an older horse. Pressing maiden winners into graded stake races at this time of the year rarely works out well in the end.
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