Matt Ice Flynn

[Crown@club]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

What Flynn did Sunday, in my opinion, solidifies why Brees is MVP.

While breaking the passing yards record, Brees had 657 pass attempts, getting 8.2 YPA. That's lower than Eli Manning's 8.4 and miles away from Rodgers' 9.2. Brees threw 14 picks to Rodgers' six, and the Saints didn't even get a first-round bye.

As good as Rodgers' setup is, I'd easily prefer a dome, Sean Payton as head coach, Darren Sproles and a tight end that can catch.

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Crown@club

While breaking the passing yards record, Brees had 657 pass attempts, getting 8.2 YPA. That's lower than Eli Manning's 8.4 and miles away from Rodgers' 9.2. Brees threw 14 picks to Rodgers' six, and the Saints didn't even get a first-round bye.

As good as Rodgers' setup is, I'd easily prefer a dome, Sean Payton as head coach, Darren Sproles and a tight end that can catch.

Take Rodgers away and the Pack scores 40+ against the Lions. Take Brees away and the Saints look like the Colts.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

Take Rodgers away and the Pack scores 40+ against the Lions. Take Brees away and the Saints look like the Colts.

That is an assumption until you'd actually see the Saints without Brees.

MVP awards are mostly dumb and both are deserving, but I'd give it to Rodgers.

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

That is an assumption until you'd actually see the Saints without Brees.

MVP awards are mostly dumb and both are deserving, but I'd give it to Rodgers.

It is an assumption, true.
I am not taking anything away from Rodgers or the season he had. I have just always felt the MVP is based around the value to his team and what they would be without him. A season where you destroy a long standing passing record should be recognized though and since they are not winning the Superbowl, MVP should be his consolation prize.

[wiphan]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

It is an assumption, true.
I am not taking anything away from Rodgers or the season he had. I have just always felt the MVP is based around the value to his team and what they would be without him. A season where you destroy a long standing passing record should be recognized though and since they are not winning the Superbowl, MVP should be his consolation prize.

Why do you think NO doesn't have a shot to win the superbowl? They should be able to tear thru the lions and then they should be able to beat an overated SF team thus getting them to the NFC championship and anything could happen. The fact that Brees broke that record in today's NFL is a little overblown. CB's can't play like they used to and the NFL is a passing league right now. Also I believe the passing record will be recognized with his name on it. The MVP award isn't for the QB with the most passing yards.

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by wiphan

Why do you think NO doesn't have a shot to win the superbowl? They should be able to tear thru the lions and then they should be able to beat an overated SF team thus getting them to the NFC championship and anything could happen. The fact that Brees broke that record in today's NFL is a little overblown. CB's can't play like they used to and the NFL is a passing league right now. Also I believe the passing record will be recognized with his name on it. The MVP award isn't for the QB with the most passing yards.

I have NO at 9-1 in Vegas, that is why I took there shot away! Actually I just think they have no shot in GB.
I get what the MVP is for and I stand by Brees based on what I think they would be without him.
The fact that neither Brady or Manning had broken the record before also says a lot about what he did this year.