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![]() The Koch Brothers' Americans for Prosperity is a primary source of funding for a lot of these Tea Party rallies. I googled "Ron Paul started Tea Party" and there are indeed a lot of Ron Paul fans making the claim, so I won't dispute it. But, they claim it started in 2007, and I can't recall hearing anything about them in the mainstream media until early 2009 with that CNBC thing. So I would venture to say the Tea Party movement, if it was started by Ron Paul people, has since been purchased by the Koch brothers and the only reason it rose to national attention is that they financed it. And of course they aren't going to support Ron Paul; he opposes Defense spending. Palin is better television than Paul. She's prettier, and she gives more entertaining sound bites. Of course the media is going to focus on her. It's the reason they're looking for anyone but Romney as the GOP hope- he's probably the most palatable to a general population, but he's boring TV. EDIT: I should clarify- By "they" I mean the media.
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Agree that there were Paul people grass roots before that movement was co-opted and taken national by the GOP lobbyists. But everything in the past two years has been strict astroturf. The old folks that joined it with tricorn hats and dangling tea bags were used, pure and simple.
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![]() You are speaking from the mainstream media point of view. I assure you the Ron Paul sect is growing and still active. Whether the MSM Tards like it or not.
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The Ron Paul supporters have never had anything to do with the co-opted Republican Tea Party stuff, they have always been on their own. And yes, the Ron Paul guys had their own "Tea Party" before the GOP co-opted the meme from the Wall Street reporter on the floor of the exchange. The Ron Paul guys had it first, and have never been part of the GOP Angry American Tour for Cash and Votes. This is Santilli's rant on TV, that started all those older white folks to jump on the wagon with their tricorn hats, and that is the movement that was co-opted by the Republican Party lobbyists ("Tea Party Patriots" and "Tea Party Express") http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHbjenBMLno http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQW4z...eature=related
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The Ron Paul faction is never going to be any threat to the general GOP. They don't have the cash to take on the Koch Bros and they never will.
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But I'd rather have Ron Paul and his views on issues on the national stage versus the Democrats than other of the current Republican candidates. He's the class of that poor field. BTW, Perry attacked Mitt as a member of a religious cult today.
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At this point it doesn't matter. I truly believe we're headed for a total economic collapse far worse than the great depression. What rises from the ashes is anyone's guess but I AM WORRIED. It's just not looking good. |
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I always enjoy your political posts, Coach, because I think you're very smart and I share your cynicism about a lot of things. And you're funny. My issue with Libertarianism is that, to me, it's one of those lines of thinking that depend on a belief that human beings are, at their core, honorable, and that given the chance, we'd all prefer to play on a level field. And I just don't think that's so. I think that, given the opportunity, most people who make it will gladly tilt the field and then pull the ladder up after themselves (apologies for the mixed metaphor). I think it's human nature. I'm not saying the regulations we have now are the right ones, or even work well, largely because a lot of them are written by the very companies that are seeking to keep the ladder pulled up after them. It's one of the things that annoys me about Ayn Randites- a lot of them completely ignore that, in her magnum opus, one of the biggest villains was a crony capitalist, and that she would, were she around today, have huge contempt for the Jesus-heavy GOP- she hated Ronald Reagan- and the Wall Street/government relationship (yes, I confess; in my teens I read a lot of Ayn Rand. A lot). But even Rand had to compromise with the real world- she went on Medicare when she was older because she couldn't afford her medical bills. And she collected Social Security. And if real life could put a financial squeeze on her, what does it say about what it can do to the rest of us? But I don't know what the solution is. I'm also really worried. We had a kid last year, and while he's the light and joy of my life, I sometimes wonder if bringing him into the world was a big mistake, because I don't have a lot of hope for what kind of a world he'll grow up into.
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![]() I agree about the big worry. Right now, I think our future is in hands of Merkel, the World Bank, the IMF. And no, I'm not encouraged.
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