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Coach Pants 10-05-2011 03:23 PM

European Union Collapse Thread
 
It's going to happen in the foreseeable future. Then we're next. Our cousins know...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmG86...eature=related

Riot 10-05-2011 06:41 PM

That's why some don't want all those Occupy Wall Street people hanging around in the streets this winter. They are peaceful now, but there will be unhappy, jobless, homeless rioters and/or provocateurs that will change that (it helps - not - when asshats like Herman Cain announce publicly that the unemployed are that way only because they refuse to work)

It's the 1960's all over again. But with police kettling, not hoses and dogs. I was watching YouTubes of Kent State the other day.

"more of the same ... " - yes, that is what we are doing in America. He's right.

Coach Pants 10-05-2011 08:06 PM

Yes and the Occupy Wall Street movement includes socialists, anarchists and tea partiers.

It's nice to see Americans waking up. Like this guy...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCW-ZIPrBYY

GenuineRisk 10-05-2011 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach Pants (Post 809509)
Yes and the Occupy Wall Street movement includes socialists, anarchists and tea partiers.

It's nice to see Americans waking up. Like this guy...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCW-ZIPrBYY

Where have you seen Tea Partiers?

That man in the video is Jesse LeGreca, aka Ministry of Truth on Daily Kos. I think he's been awake for awhile.

Seeing as how the Wall Streeters are putting this up:



... I don't think they care too much about this protest.

Coach Pants 10-06-2011 07:58 AM

Cocaine makes you bold.

Here's another LaGreca clip with less libtard talking points..

http://youtu.be/8qnGlQWKoXE

Oh this guy can't be a tea partier because he's not white. Gotta keep the libtard agenda of keeping us divided and headed towards a race war...

http://youtu.be/QxFquL7nKRM

jms62 10-06-2011 08:07 AM

More sh*it like this and the violence will start sooner then anticipated.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=2PiXDTK_CBY

Coach Pants 10-06-2011 08:15 AM

The anarchists, unions and liberal plants like acorn and moveon will justify violence in time over police brutality. Things will spiral out of control. A false flag terror attack will occur. Martial Law will be implemented. Elections cancelled. Emperor Obama.

MaTH716 10-06-2011 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 809547)
More sh*it like this and the violence will start sooner then anticipated.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=2PiXDTK_CBY

There were actually 4-5 people dressed in tuxedo's and ball gowns drinking champagne in some sort of quasi counter protest across from the park last night.

GenuineRisk 10-06-2011 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants (Post 809544)
Cocaine makes you bold.

Here's another LaGreca clip with less libtard talking points..

http://youtu.be/8qnGlQWKoXE

Oh this guy can't be a tea partier because he's not white. Gotta keep the libtard agenda of keeping us divided and headed towards a race war...

http://youtu.be/QxFquL7nKRM

It's not the race of the speaker that makes me skeptical about him being a conservative; it's his Che Guevara tshirt.

I still see no Tea Party members. If you have footage of them participating in the protest, please post it. I'm not saying you're wrong; I just haven't seen any. But, as the Tea Party is financed by the Koch Brothers, I'm skeptical.

Here's some video of the swells drinking champagne while they watch the protest:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PiXDTK_CBY

I think this is the definition of "F*ck: we don't give one."

EDIT: Apologies to jms62- I didn't realize you'd posted the same video already!

Coach Pants 10-06-2011 08:41 AM

This is true tea party beliefs...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQow0Fhua1A

MaTH716 10-06-2011 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants (Post 809553)
This is true tea party beliefs...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQow0Fhua1A

The kid is very educated and well spoken.

GenuineRisk 10-06-2011 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 809555)
The kid is very educated and well spoken.

Well educated, well-spoken, and doesn't understand a thing about economics. But I can believe he aligns himself with the Tea Party, as the Koch Brothers would love to see the US back on the gold standard, as the only people who would benefit from it would be the ultra-rich. The rest of us would be driven even further in debt than we are now.

Here are two reasonably decent articles on the problems with the gold standard:

http://www.alternet.org/teaparty/149...andard/?page=1

A little long, but good.

http://www.slate.com/articles/busine...gold_rush.html

Shorter article about what would happen if we returned to the gold standard.

The Fed becomes an easy villain, but it was instituted to deal with the financial panics created by 19th century moguls' attempts to corner the market.

In fact, if this kid got his way on economics, the Wall Streeters he's protesting would have even more power than they do now.

jms62 10-06-2011 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by GenuineRisk (Post 809558)
Well educated, well-spoken, and doesn't understand a thing about economics. But I can believe he aligns himself with the Tea Party, as the Koch Brothers would love to see the US back on the gold standard, as the only people who would benefit from it would be the ultra-rich. The rest of us would be driven even further in debt than we are now.

Here are two reasonably decent articles on the problems with the gold standard:

http://www.alternet.org/teaparty/149...andard/?page=1

A little long, but good.

http://www.slate.com/articles/busine...gold_rush.html

Shorter article about what would happen if we returned to the gold standard.

The Fed becomes an easy villain, but it was instituted to deal with the financial panics created by 19th century moguls' attempts to corner the market.

In fact, if this kid got his way on economics, the Wall Streeters he's protesting would have even more power than they do now.

Aside from the Gold Standard he sure makes some great points about feeding the War Machine.

GenuineRisk 10-06-2011 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 809563)
Aside from the Gold Standard he sure makes some great points about feeding the War Machine.

I heard that, too. I just wish he wouldn't have said that thing about our only exports being tanks, etc., because it's so completely untrue and that kind of hyperbole doesn't help him make the valid point: that we spend too much on defense.

Coach Pants 10-06-2011 01:46 PM

Get the f.uck out of here with crowbarring the Koch brothers into the tea party movement.

Contrary to popular libtard belief the Tea Party was started by Ron Paul supporters. Not RINO's like Palin who have infiltrated the party and been the focus from the mainstream media who is falling over backwards to censor and push Paul aside.

It's not going to work. Get f.ucked.

GenuineRisk 10-06-2011 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants (Post 809618)
Get the f.uck out of here with crowbarring the Koch brothers into the tea party movement.

Contrary to popular libtard belief the Tea Party was started by Ron Paul supporters. Not RINO's like Palin who have infiltrated the party and been the focus from the mainstream media who is falling over backwards to censor and push Paul aside.

It's not going to work. Get f.ucked.

You're cute when you're all fired up. ;)

The Koch Brothers' Americans for Prosperity is a primary source of funding for a lot of these Tea Party rallies. I googled "Ron Paul started Tea Party" and there are indeed a lot of Ron Paul fans making the claim, so I won't dispute it. But, they claim it started in 2007, and I can't recall hearing anything about them in the mainstream media until early 2009 with that CNBC thing. So I would venture to say the Tea Party movement, if it was started by Ron Paul people, has since been purchased by the Koch brothers and the only reason it rose to national attention is that they financed it. And of course they aren't going to support Ron Paul; he opposes Defense spending.

Palin is better television than Paul. She's prettier, and she gives more entertaining sound bites. Of course the media is going to focus on her. It's the reason they're looking for anyone but Romney as the GOP hope- he's probably the most palatable to a general population, but he's boring TV.

EDIT: I should clarify- By "they" I mean the media.

Riot 10-06-2011 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk (Post 809625)
The Koch Brothers' Americans for Prosperity is a primary source of funding for a lot of these Tea Party rallies.

Thank you. Everyone knows the Tea Party was immediately co-opted by two different GOP funding ops (Koch Brothers, Americans for Prosperity, etc.). Difference between "Tea Party Express" (Koch) vs. "Tea Party Patriots" (Amer. for Prosp), etc.

Agree that there were Paul people grass roots before that movement was co-opted and taken national by the GOP lobbyists. But everything in the past two years has been strict astroturf. The old folks that joined it with tricorn hats and dangling tea bags were used, pure and simple.

Coach Pants 10-06-2011 07:02 PM

You are speaking from the mainstream media point of view. I assure you the Ron Paul sect is growing and still active. Whether the MSM Tards like it or not.

Riot 10-06-2011 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach Pants (Post 809653)
You are speaking from the mainstream media point of view. I assure you the Ron Paul sect is growing and still active. Whether the MSM Tards like it or not.

No, I'm speaking from the "the lobbyists said they did it" point of view.

The Ron Paul supporters have never had anything to do with the co-opted Republican Tea Party stuff, they have always been on their own. And yes, the Ron Paul guys had their own "Tea Party" before the GOP co-opted the meme from the Wall Street reporter on the floor of the exchange. The Ron Paul guys had it first, and have never been part of the GOP Angry American Tour for Cash and Votes.

This is Santilli's rant on TV, that started all those older white folks to jump on the wagon with their tricorn hats, and that is the movement that was co-opted by the Republican Party lobbyists ("Tea Party Patriots" and "Tea Party Express")

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHbjenBMLno

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQW4z...eature=related

GenuineRisk 10-07-2011 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach Pants (Post 809653)
You are speaking from the mainstream media point of view. I assure you the Ron Paul sect is growing and still active. Whether the MSM Tards like it or not.

The mainstream media point of view is the only one the vast majority of America sees, though.

The Ron Paul faction is never going to be any threat to the general GOP. They don't have the cash to take on the Koch Bros and they never will.


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