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[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

The Obama administration has cut massive $$ amounts of waste from Medicare with the PPACA.

This administration has cut out massive duplication and waste from the federal government.


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And still set the record for spending!!!!!!!

And stop with the BS of PPACA saving anything. It will be a Medicare program on steroids with Post Office like results.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

And stop with the BS of PPACA saving anything. It will be a Medicare program on steroids with Post Office like results.

The sad thing is that you are repeatedly proud of your deliberate ignorance.

No, Dell, the PPACA is not a "Medicare program on steroids". It is some reforms to the private insurance industry. And it's not any "will be". It is already in effect and is the law. Seeing the law is already in existence, where is the "medicare on steroids"?

Everybody is entitled to their own view and interpretation of political and government policy. But you're no better than Donald Trump with your deliberate ignoring of reality and purposeful choosing of ignorance regarding the issues.

Nothing wrong with not supporting any administration's policies or actions, or being adamantly and actively opposed. But do it based upon the reality and truth of it. This recent national acceptance of literally making outrageously false crap up, and deliberately ignoring truth and reality, is disastrous for this country. When did it become cool to be ignorant and proud of it?**

** Oh, wait - Sarah Palin

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

The sad thing is that you are repeatedly proud of your deliberate ignorance.

No, Dell, the PPACA is not a "Medicare program on steroids". It is some reforms to the private insurance industry. It's already in effect and is the law. Where is the "medicare on steroids"?

Take out ALL subsidies and requirement to purchase insurance and go from there. Get the 'opt out' in writing if needed.

And only a small part of it is in effect and law.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Take out ALL subsidies and requirement to purchase insurance and go from there. Get the 'opt out' in writing if needed.

And only a small part of it is in effect and law.

Where is the "Medicare on steroids" part? How are the savings in the program that fund it false? C'mon - you continually make ridiculous and exaggerated accusations here and expect to be taken seriously with your political discourse. Support them.`

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

Where is the "Medicare on steroids" part? C'mon - you continually make ridiculous accusations. Support them.

When every high-risk/pre-condition policy holder is provided affordable rates low risk patients will be forced to pay for that affordability in the form of higher premiums. When every Tom, Dick and Harry whether because of their own fault or not are offered subsidies to pay for policies those w/o subsidies will be forced to pay that bill. That's the cost part.

The steroid part is the fraud that is inevitable and estimated at 10% in the Medicare world. Times that by 40,000,000 new patients under Obamacare and it's anabolic!

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

When every high-risk/pre-condition policy holder is provided affordable rates low risk patients will be forced to pay for that affordability in the form of higher premiums.

Yes. That is exactly as it exists now.

When every Tom, Dick and Harry whether because of their own fault or not are offered subsidies to pay for policies

Please read the act and see who qualifies for the subsidies.

The steroid part is the fraud that is inevitable and estimated at 10% in the Medicare world. Times that by 40,000,000 new patients under Obamacare and it's anabolic

Except those 40,000,000 are not on Medicaid or Medicare, or part of those pools. They are in the private insurance pools that you and I are in now.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

Yes. That is exactly as it exists now.


Please read the act and see who qualifies for the subsidies.



Except those 40,000,000 are not on Medicaid or Medicare, or part of those pools. They are in the private insurance pools that you and I are in now.

It is not. Individuals in a high risk catagory pay a much higher premium and you know it.