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Riot 04-27-2011 08:38 AM

Conspiracy theorists heads explode - full birth certificate released
 
Of course, the conspiracy theorists won't accept even this, I'm sure.

It does point out what an outright liar Donald Trump is (regarding "what his investigators have found" in Hawaii), and that's a good deed.



C-span also has the following documents as released by the White House at the press conference today: press secretaries release, Presidents authorization for lawyers to get certificate, lawyers request to Hawaii, Hawaii' response.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2011/...th-certificate

randallscott35 04-27-2011 08:39 AM

Great. Now we can just hope he isn't reelected.

Riot 04-27-2011 08:40 AM

Sorry, Antitrust, I didn't see you'd already posted this. Perhaps the threads can be merged.

Antitrust32 04-27-2011 08:41 AM

i think you beat me by a minute... i'm waiting anxiously for Dellinger's interpretation.

dellinger63 04-27-2011 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 771729)
i think you beat me by a minute... i'm waiting anxiously for Dellinger's interpretation.

I hope now that it's out he can start acting in America's interest as a natural born citizen should, as opposed to a frenchmen tossing hankies around :)

somerfrost 04-27-2011 09:10 AM

Saw on morning news that Trump is in NH campaigning....they showed a clip of this warthog claiming: (1) the President was born in Kenya, (2) he's a Muslim and (3) he didn't deserve to get in Harvard because Trump "has heard" he was a poor student. It's well past time to shut this mother up, he up to 20% in the polls of Republican candidates and has offered no platform...nothing but personal attacks on President Obama's character. Even Republicans deserve better than this...at first he was rather funny but now he's sickening!

Riot 04-27-2011 09:12 AM

I just went and read RedState and Drudge to read the comments - what hysteria :D

Nearly all the comments are declaring that the document is a fake (of course!), or that the birther issue was secretly started and maintained by left wing extremists in order to paint the innocent right as racists.

:D

Riot 04-27-2011 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by somerfrost (Post 771739)
Saw on morning news that Trump is in NH campaigning....they showed a clip of this warthog claiming: (1) the President was born in Kenya, (2) he's a Muslim and (3) he didn't deserve to get in Harvard because Trump "has heard" he was a poor student. It's well past time to shut this mother up, he up to 20% in the polls of Republican candidates and has offered no platform...nothing but personal attacks on President Obama's character. Even Republicans deserve better than this...at first he was rather funny but now he's sickening!

Yes, "release the transcripts" is the new whine from the haters.

AeWingnut 04-27-2011 09:24 AM

obvious forgery
;)

GBBob 04-27-2011 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by somerfrost (Post 771739)
Saw on morning news that Trump is in NH campaigning....they showed a clip of this warthog claiming: (1) the President was born in Kenya, (2) he's a Muslim and (3) he didn't deserve to get in Harvard because Trump "has heard" he was a poor student. It's well past time to shut this mother up, he up to 20% in the polls of Republican candidates and has offered no platform...nothing but personal attacks on President Obama's character. Even Republicans deserve better than this...at first he was rather funny but now he's sickening!

As a bleeding heart liberal I will be contributing to his fund. Do Donald Go:{>:

MaTH716 04-27-2011 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by somerfrost (Post 771739)
Saw on morning news that Trump is in NH campaigning....they showed a clip of this warthog claiming: (1) the President was born in Kenya, (2) he's a Muslim and (3) he didn't deserve to get in Harvard because Trump "has heard" he was a poor student. It's well past time to shut this mother up, he up to 20% in the polls of Republican candidates and has offered no platform...nothing but personal attacks on President Obama's character. Even Republicans deserve better than this...at first he was rather funny but now he's sickening!

Wow, that sounds like the same campaign that Obama ran when he won the presidency (obviously he was doing the same to President Bush).

somerfrost 04-27-2011 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 771743)
Yes, "release the transcripts" is the new whine from the haters.

I try really hard not to accuse folks who actually buy into this crap of being racist but it's becoming harder by the day. I've followed politics since the late 50's and have never seen anything like the right's personal attacks on a sitting President. There were snide remarks about Bush's academics and intelligence but not by candidates and nowhere near this degree. Wallace played the race card and sadly drew significant support but was quickly rejected by both parties. Nixon learned early on how to play to the nation's paranoia....but man oh man, what's next for the Obama haters?

GBBob 04-27-2011 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 771753)
Wow, that sounds like the same campaign that Obama ran when he won the presidency (obviously he was doing the same to President Bush).

Any personal attacks on Bush were fact.."Mission Accomplished", etc..not this birther, Muslim crap

somerfrost 04-27-2011 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 771753)
Wow, that sounds like the same campaign that Obama ran when he won the presidency (obviously he was doing the same to President Bush).

Show me evidence of Obama attacking President Bush's character....it's one thing to attack policy and/or political ideology, quite another to engage in a personal smear campaign!

GBBob 04-27-2011 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by somerfrost (Post 771757)
Show me evidence of Obama attacking President Bush's character....it's one thing to attack policy and/or political ideology, quite another to engage in a personal smear campaign!

Well..he did say Bush was from Texas...that's a smear in itself

Riot 04-27-2011 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GBBob (Post 771756)
Any personal attacks on Bush were fact.."Mission Accomplished", etc..not this birther, Muslim crap

Here is the President's press conference on this issue this am. What an absurd clown show our political discourse has become:

http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/BirthC

** It should be noted that our television network executives chose to break into programming to televise this five minute comment by the President - the WH did NOT ask them to do so.

dellinger63 04-27-2011 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riot (Post 771766)
Here is the President's press conference on this issue this am. What an absurd clown show our political discourse has become:

http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/BirthC

Love how he says he didn't address it so far cause he's so busy yet like a clown takes time out and holds a press conference to announce how busy he is. Maybe he can call in sick at all his NYC fundraisers and get 'caught up' with work.

wiphan 04-27-2011 10:11 AM

Trump is an idiot. He is not even a good or legit businessman and I do not know how anyone could actually support him as a presidential candidate. I could care less about this birth certificate stuff.

What I do care about is the price of Gas, inflation, jobs, wasted government $, raising the national debt limit, the US credit rating, the devaluation of the dollar, more government invasion into our lifes, taxes, and more. All of which I see the current administration, Geithner, and Bernancke as failures so far.

GBBob 04-27-2011 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wiphan (Post 771776)
Trump is an idiot. He is not even a good or legit businessman and I do not know how anyone could actually support him as a presidential candidate. I could care less about this birth certificate stuff.

What I do care about is the price of Gas, inflation, jobs, wasted government $, raising the national debt limit, the US credit rating, the devaluation of the dollar, more government invasion into our lifes, taxes, and more. All of which I see the current administration, Geithner, and Bernancke as failures so far.

You've cut to the chase on where we differ...I think we had to spend our way out of the recession, gas was too cheap and I certainly trust the govt more than I do my next door neighbor, especially if he owns a gun.

Four more years.

somerfrost 04-27-2011 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wiphan (Post 771776)
Trump is an idiot. He is not even a good or legit businessman and I do not know how anyone could actually support him as a presidential candidate. I could care less about this birth certificate stuff.

What I do care about is the price of Gas, inflation, jobs, wasted government $, raising the national debt limit, the US credit rating, the devaluation of the dollar, more government invasion into our lifes, taxes, and more. All of which I see the current administration, Geithner, and Bernancke as failures so far.

And those are all legit issues...we can debate the direction we should be going, responsibilities for the mess we find ourselves in etc....lively debate on the issues is the essence of democracy, personal attacks are not.


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