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Yes, Medicare should be eliminated. The elderly should provide their own health care. 2 8.33%
Yes, Medicare should be eliminated, but privatized and largely subsidized by the government 2 8.33%
Yes, Medicare should be eliminated, but privatized and barely subsidized by the government. 2 8.33%
No, Medicare should stay as it is now, continue lowering costs, bargaining for drug deals, etc. 10 41.67%
No, Medicare should be expanded, everyone can buy in, single payer health ins. for all. 8 33.33%
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Old 04-04-2011, 05:51 PM
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But Coach, you aren't retired with a fixed income of $1061 a month either.
nobody should retire if all they have to fall back on is Social Security. Their own fault.
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Old 04-04-2011, 05:58 PM
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nobody should retire if all they have to fall back on is Social Security. Their own fault.
It's my fault because I got sick and was forced into early retirement? Believe me, I'd work if I could. and since I'm only 64, I get no insurance, meds and dr visits come out of my pocket. I'm not complaining, got it better than lots of folks but fact is not everything in life goes as one expects!
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Old 04-04-2011, 06:02 PM
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It's my fault because I got sick and was forced into early retirement? Believe me, I'd work if I could. and since I'm only 64, I get no insurance, meds and dr visits come out of my pocket. I'm not complaining, got it better than lots of folks but fact is not everything in life goes as one expects!
being handicapped is different than choosing to retire. I'm all for supporting handicapped people who cant work.

But people who choose to retire with no money saved to plan for it, I dont have too much sympathy for.
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Old 04-04-2011, 06:03 PM
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Hmmm. How much money did it take from Insurance lobbyists to buy the criminals (er politicos) that thought of this idea.
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Old 04-04-2011, 06:05 PM
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If you really want to be angry look at how the pharmaceutical companies made out on Dubya's MMA.
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Old 04-04-2011, 06:11 PM
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If you really want to be angry look at how the pharmaceutical companies made out on Dubya's MMA.
Dude I read this book.

http://www.amazon.com/Griftopia-Mach...1955058&sr=8-1

Any more angry and I will commit myself in fear of doing something that will embarass my family.
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Old 04-05-2011, 06:27 PM
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Dude I read this book.

http://www.amazon.com/Griftopia-Mach...1955058&sr=8-1

Any more angry and I will commit myself in fear of doing something that will embarass my family.
Only ten years? Should have looked back much further, though I think you would have to make good on your commitment.
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Old 04-07-2011, 11:49 PM
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Stop drinking the Kool-Aid...Riot...How many BIG companies want to opt out of Obamacare????

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Hmmm. How much money did it take from Insurance lobbyists to buy the criminals (er politicos) that thought of this idea.
I f-ing hate United Health Care.

Hmm I wonder why their stock is so high? Maybe because they significantly raised all their deductables so they have to pay out much less money?
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Old 04-04-2011, 06:56 PM
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It's my fault because I got sick and was forced into early retirement? Believe me, I'd work if I could. and since I'm only 64, I get no insurance, meds and dr visits come out of my pocket. I'm not complaining, got it better than lots of folks but fact is not everything in life goes as one expects!
Somer: you should look into SSDI! I did and am drawing enough to help out alot.......before that I was at the poverty level. I used Binder and Binder.
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Somer: you should look into SSDI! I did and am drawing enough to help out alot.......before that I was at the poverty level. I used Binder and Binder.
Timm, I looked pretty much at everything. If I get sick and the doctor puts me in the hospital (which happened dec 09), Medical Asst kicks in and pays most of the hospital bills, but otherwise, they say I make too much ($1061 a month is too much). I got IHEAP to help with heating bills and $16 a month in food stamps but otherwise nada. Like I said, I'm not complaining, other folks are far worse off, but I'm not driving around in a new caddy like some seem to think.
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Old 04-04-2011, 07:23 PM
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Timm, I looked pretty much at everything. If I get sick and the doctor puts me in the hospital (which happened dec 09), Medical Asst kicks in and pays most of the hospital bills, but otherwise, they say I make too much ($1061 a month is too much). I got IHEAP to help with heating bills and $16 a month in food stamps but otherwise nada. Like I said, I'm not complaining, other folks are far worse off, but I'm not driving around in a new caddy like some seem to think.
And that this type of thing can occur in "the richest country in the world" is appalling.

I don't want "the government" to "pay for freeloaders". But there are indeed ways for we citizens as a country - for our goverment - to make sure everyone in the country can purchase good, complete healthcare and pay their own way.

The Republicans want to do the opposite.
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Somer: you should look into SSDI! I did and am drawing enough to help out alot.......before that I was at the poverty level. I used Binder and Binder.
my head just exploded.

i feel the way you would if you found out my dad was a pastor and paid all my bills. and i let him. while maintaing my staunch non-theist beliefs.
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Old 04-04-2011, 07:16 PM
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my head just exploded.

i feel the way you would if you found out my dad was a pastor and paid all my bills. and i let him. while maintaing my staunch non-theist beliefs.
if only...
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Old 04-04-2011, 07:33 PM
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if only...
that won't actually happen but maybe i'll get esophageal cancer. apparently it's the aids of atheists.
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Old 04-04-2011, 07:46 PM
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that won't actually happen but maybe i'll get esophageal cancer. apparently it's the aids of atheists.
bitterness will make you sick
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that won't actually happen but maybe i'll get esophageal cancer. apparently it's the aids of atheists.
I have a personal interest in this, as I was born with my esophagus growing into my right lung(instead of my stomach). I spent the first two years of my life in Boston's Children's Hospital. No skin graft in 1962, they simply detached and stretched the esophagus, sewing it into my stomach. During those two years I had a lot of tears and pinhole leaks, and some pneumonia and extreme fever that got me some early Last Rites by a Catholic priest.

Used to run 5 miles a day, was an amateur boxer, etc, but two years ago(at the age of 46) everything began to unravel. I have near constant choking and coughing, and am experiencing the loss of the functioning I did have for the 44 years before. I don't have cancer, but I will miss eating. Seems the time to revert to being tube fed is coming faster than I thought

Sure could use my Pool 2 future wager exacta of The Factor/Astrology to come to fruition
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Wow. Yes. Timmi, we never knew ya
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nobody should retire if all they have to fall back on is Social Security. Their own fault.
That is of course a realistic assessment, but shame on the government too with all their marketing of a near worthless retirement program. Well, they would say it is not a retirement program -- so then it's a supplement with decreasing value year after year. I'm only in my early 40's so I am peeved at being forced to pay into something that either won't be there at all in 30 years or will be about enough to buy one cup of coffee a week.

Everybody should save for their own retirement and keep their hands on their own money -- not the neighbor's next door.
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