Republican plan to eliminate Medicare

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

I think that's just going to dent the can, which will make the dog food spoil sooner.

You can buy small cans with a pop top so just pull the little ring and enjoy!

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

You can buy small cans with a pop top so just pull the little ring and enjoy!

Well, that would work. But you know, in the end, I'd rather have the same safety net I'm providing to your generation. If I had my choice, which it looks like I won't.

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

Well, that would work. But you know, in the end, I'd rather have the same safety net I'm providing to your generation. If I had my choice, which it looks like I won't.

Republicans still need the Senate and White House....

This is a no-win situation. Cuts need to be made but how severe? You can't get rid of medicare completely. It would be akin to the government putting crack cocaine in the ghetto and then removing it in 10 years.


The young working class of this country are basically paying for their parents and grandparents to live longer. Well with longer life comes expense. Most of us love our elders. We love them too much. They're killing us.

[Indian Charlie]

One could always take responsibility for their health, stop eating ****, stop taking meds and break away from our health care system entirely (except for traumas).

You know, kinda like how the human race used to exist until the last 75 years.

And don't give me that crap about how life expectancy has gone up due to drugs, vaccines, etc.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

One could always take responsibility for their health, stop eating ****, stop taking meds and break away from our health care system entirely (except for traumas).

Nobody can "break away from the healthcare system entirely", because wellness care and disease prevention are huge and important components which increase with age in the population.

That is, they are in other first-world countries where complete, real healthcare is affordable by the majority of the population. Not the US, of course, where we only put out healthcare fires, and rather inefficiently and expensively, for only some and not all.

Guesstimates...

Part A&B once you're paid in and not making over like 100k (I believe) the part B premium is $115/month 80% coverage...Medicare Supplement to cover the other 20% say worst cast $250/month.

If you told me, outside of prescription coverage, that I could get 100% paid-for health coverage for $365 a month I would do f.ucking cartwheels naked in the town square and jizz all over the war memorial each month.

No wonder why Medicare is broke.

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Guesstimates...

Part A&B once you're paid in and not making over like 100k (I believe) the part B premium is $115/month 80% coverage...Medicare Supplement to cover the other 20% say worst cast $250/month.

If you told me, outside of prescription coverage, that I could get 100% paid-for health coverage for $365 a month I would do f.ucking cartwheels naked in the town square and jizz all over the war memorial each month.

No wonder why Medicare is broke.

But Coach, you aren't retired with a fixed income of $1061 a month either.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

But Coach, you aren't retired with a fixed income of $1061 a month either.

nobody should retire if all they have to fall back on is Social Security. Their own fault.

Originally Posted by somerfrost

But Coach, you aren't retired with a fixed income of $1061 a month either.

Well if you're only drawing that much then you should have some sort of subsidy for prescriptions and, in certain cases, your part b premium subsidized as well.

I have an uncle who draws Low-income subsidy and all he pays are $2 for generics and $6 for name-brand drugs. Plus his part b premium is paid for and all hospital bills written off.

It's crazy.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

This is a no-win situation. Cuts need to be made but how severe? You can't get rid of medicare completely. It would be akin to the government putting crack cocaine in the ghetto and then removing it in 10 years.

Or, we could open up Medicare to everyone in the country. Let everyone buy in. The addition of 100 million healthy young people into the program would lower the costs for everyone, and increase the benefits.

Originally Posted by Riot

Or, we could open up Medicare to everyone in the country. Let everyone buy in. The addition of 100 million healthy young people into the program would lower the costs for everyone, and increase the benefits.

I'd like to see some statistics on that pipe dream. The way Medicare is now it will only increase the abuse and cost.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

I'd like to see some statistics on that pipe dream. The way Medicare is now it will only increase the abuse and cost.

Stats were discussed prior at the start of the healthcare debate in 2009. I agree, in this country owned by corporations, likely a pipe dream.

There is no way our current government would put the ability of all citizens to purchase affordable health insurance above the profits of private insurance companies. That was clearly the vote our reps made in 2010, can't see it happening now.

[paulo537]

End Medicare.

End Social Security.

If you're old and don't have sufficient means, your children take care of you.

If you have no children or if they won't or can't take care of you, then you go into the mountains or woods and lay down to die.

This is how things work in most of the world; why not here?

But this is America, so we should probably give them a pretty big bottle of strong narcotic pills to make their final journey more pleasant.