Wait On That Abortion

[Antitrust32]

FYI there are not "govenors out there who want to make it legal to kill abortion doctors"

thats ridiculous.

Not even in South dakota, where I assume your reference came from.

"This simply is to bring consistency to South Dakota statute as it relates to justifiable homicide," said Jensen in an interview with Mother Jones, repeating an argument he made in the committee hearing on the bill last week. "If you look at the code, these codes are dealing with illegal acts. Now, abortion is a legal act. So this has got nothing to do with abortion."

^ says the guy who wrote the bill.



doing a little fear mongering today, Riot?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

doing a little fear mongering today, Riot?

Nope. Disagree completely with the assessment you quoted of the intended results of the bill. Don't listen to what they say, read what the bill actually says. Which is fortunately why the majority of the state legislatures in SD and Nebraska are, so far, NOT voting those bills into law - I agree with their assessments of the threat and meaning of the law. But some are still trying to get that shiat passed.

It's kinda like Gov. Walker saying, "my budget proposal isn't about union busting"

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Riot

Nope. Disagree completely with the assessment you quoted of the intended results of the bill. Don't listen to what they say, read what the bill actually says. Which is fortunately why the majority of the state legislatures in SD and Nebraska are, so far, NOT voting those bills into law - I agree with their assessments of the threat and meaning of the law.

It's kinda like Gov. Walker saying, "my budget proposal isn't about union busting"

I did read the bill and it did not at all make me think that it would be legal to kill abortion providors.

People who hurt a pregnant mom? specifically her stomach? yes, that is what it is meant for.

[Antitrust32]

Another interesting question.

Now I'm not against abortion, though I really judge women who use it as a means for birth control, and hope they never reproduce..

but if its legal to abort a first trimester fetus....

&

if a drunk Driver kills a mother and her unborn first trimester fetus

shouldnt the drunk driver only be charged with one murder? since its just a fetus?

[randallscott35]

I'd say 80% of people are too self centered to be good parents...yet people who shouldn't keep having them.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

I'd say 80% of people are too self centered to be good parents...yet people who shouldn't keep having them.

regarding most people I'm "Pro - I wish your mother had aborted you"

I dont understand why you have to pass a test to drive a car... but anyone with working plumbing can reproduce.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

I'd say 80% of people are too self centered to be good parents...yet people who shouldn't keep having them.

I've seen that "Supernanny" show on TV, and watched three-year-olds running roughshod over adult humans, it makes you scared for the future of the world

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by Riot

I've seen that "Supernanny" show on TV, and watched three-year-olds running roughshod over adult humans, it makes you scared for the future of the world

yes it does but of course it doesn't apply to the abortion debate. There are strong feelings on both sides but too often it is seen as a black/white issue while in truth, it's shades of gray. Both sides can produce "science" to support their view while in truth, we cannot say for sure the exact moment when life begins. There are however some points that seem clear...we must do all we can to avoid unwanted pregnancies. That means education, access to health care, and changing some basic mores of society. Also, we must learn to deal with pregnancies once they occur...that means increased adoptions and shared responsibilities not to mention health care for mother and child, increased accessability to drug rehabs, parenting skills and ways to encourage family units. In a land where corporations advertise padded bras for 8 year old girls, mothers encourage young daughters to participate in beauty contests wearing make-up and sexually suggestive outfits and fathers pass on the desirability to be a "stud" to their sons, it is little wonder that we abort about 1,200,000 a year.