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Old 03-28-2011, 01:06 PM
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So do you support the governors in some states who are trying to make it legal to murder an abortion provider? Yes or no?

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Old 03-28-2011, 01:15 PM
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There are some governors out west - Nebraska and South Dakota - who are currently trying to get laws passed, to redefine the legal definition of homicide to NOT include those acts involving the killing of abortion providers.

Yeah. Pretty scary. That means that the ******* who killed Dr. George Tillman in his church could not be charged with homicide.
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Old 03-28-2011, 01:17 PM
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There are some governors out west - Nebraska and South Dakota - who are currently trying to get laws passed, to redefine the legal definition of homicide to NOT include those acts involving the killing of abortion providers.

Yeah. Pretty scary. That means that the ******* who killed Dr. George Tillman in his church could not be charged with homicide.
this is false.


its about Women who are hit in the stomach by someone, which could kill their unborn child, have the right to protect their unborn child without facing prosecution.

what you wrote is 100% false.
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Old 03-28-2011, 01:18 PM
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basically, your interpretation is the same you call out Republicans for when they yell DEATH PANELS!
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Old 03-28-2011, 01:28 PM
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basically, your interpretation is the same you call out Republicans for when they yell DEATH PANELS!
Nope. Not even close. Look at the language of the law.
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Old 03-28-2011, 01:23 PM
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this is false.


its about Women who are hit in the stomach by someone, which could kill their unborn child, have the right to protect their unborn child without facing prosecution.

what you wrote is 100% false.
Nope. It's not. What you wrote is not inclusive of the extent of the interpretation of the law. Yes, the above is included, too, and would be one specific incident. But the proposed laws in both states are too broad and generalized, and can easily be used against abortion providers.

And read your own guy's statement: what happens the moment abortion is deemed illegal in that state?

We already have laws protecting those who are using self-defense against a threat against their life, and people who kill pregnant women in some states can be charged with two homicides.

Ask yourself - why does the above "unborn child" thing need to be added to those state laws, and in a very broad and non-specific manner? Whenever one passes a law, it's nice to know the intent, but the actual writing of the law often allows for other unintended (or not so unintended) consequences. There is great fears about that with the language of both the proposed laws.
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Nope. What you wrote is not inclusive of the extent of the interpretation of the law. Yes, the above is included, too, and would be one specific incident. But the proposed laws in both states are too broad and generalized, and can easily be used against abortion providers.

And read your own guy's statement: what happens the moment abortion is deemed illegal in that state?
then there wont be abortion providers in the state to legally murder?

I'll stand by my interpretation of reading the law.

like i said, its the same as Repubs yelling about death panels.
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