3yo recap and updated Derby Chances

somerfrost · #1 03-27-2011, 09:47 PM

I guess if I was impressed by anyone this weekend it would be Master Of Hounds, ran exceptionally well in UAE Derby and certainly is bred well. Don't know if they will consider him for the Derby but if so, he would be a danger in the lane with that breeding!

blackthroatedwind · #2 03-27-2011, 09:51 PM

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I guess if I was impressed by anyone this weekend it would be Master Of Hounds, ran exceptionally well in UAE Derby and certainly is bred well. Don't know if they will consider him for the Derby but if so, he would be a danger in the lane with that breeding!

I'm guessing you don't bet....as this is one horrendous opinion.

somerfrost · #3 03-27-2011, 09:57 PM

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I'm guessing you don't bet....as this is one horrendous opinion.

You would be wrong, I do bet, mostly Penn National and River Downs so I am more use to claimers but don't do badly in grade 1's. Why do you find my interest in Master of Hounds so horrendous?

blackthroatedwind · #4 03-27-2011, 09:58 PM

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You would be wrong, I do bet, mostly Penn National and River Downs so I am more use to claimers but don't do badly in grade 1's. Why do you find my interest in Master of Hounds so horrendous?

Because he isn't a dirt horse.

Do you think Uncle Mo would beat Frankel in the English Guineas?

somerfrost · #5 03-27-2011, 10:08 PM

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Because he isn't a dirt horse.

Do you think Uncle Mo would beat Frankel in the English Guineas?

I don't think Uncle Mo would beat Frankel at Churchill Downs. Saying he isn't a dirt horse is a bit premature in my opinion...his breeding indicates turf preference but he handled the surface in Dubai so there is no reason he might not enjoy dirt. Stamina certainly wouldn't be a problem...not out of the question he could be a legit factor. Would like to see him run in a prep here of course.

blackthroatedwind · #6 03-27-2011, 10:41 PM

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I don't think Uncle Mo would beat Frankel at Churchill Downs. Saying he isn't a dirt horse is a bit premature in my opinion...his breeding indicates turf preference but he handled the surface in Dubai so there is no reason he might not enjoy dirt. Stamina certainly wouldn't be a problem...not out of the question he could be a legit factor. Would like to see him run in a prep here of course.

Funny stuff. Thanks.

iamthelurker · #7 03-28-2011, 01:55 AM

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Funny stuff. Thanks.

You cant just play nice with people can you? HAHA

PatCummings · #8 03-28-2011, 04:09 AM

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...His breeding indicates turf preference but he handled the surface in Dubai so there is no reason he might not enjoy dirt.

I'll admit he ran a hell of a lot better than I thought he would in Dubai (even though he did look better the two morning before the race compared to his stable companions), but saying a horse will get over dirt because he handled Tapeta is void of all logic. And if you don't think that is foolish, just think of it this way...if you say it for him, you'd have to say it for every other winner there, and we KNOW that is far from the truth. It's not even a brutally weak argument, it's a non-starter.

johnny pinwheel · #9 03-28-2011, 07:50 AM

the percentages are pretty good. except for to honor and serve. i can't see him ahead of soldat or gourmet dinner or even stay thirsty for that matter. the horse looked like crap last time out. the race was not even close, two horses i just mentioned pretty much kicked his butt in. his wins are very slow, where they let him walk on the lead....i'm waiting to see how much money this one burns again saturday, hes got a slight chance but he will be hopelessly overbet again this week, and your bias of making him a top 5 makes my case.the horse has not one race that makes him look competitive. if he repeats his last race like i think he will...the air will be out of the tires on this bandwagon. that horse has to prove he does not need an easy lead for me to even consider him. which means he has to win the next one...i'm saying "good luck" with that.

Antitrust32 · #10 03-28-2011, 09:07 AM

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I don't think Uncle Mo would beat Frankel at Churchill Downs. Saying he isn't a dirt horse is a bit premature in my opinion...his breeding indicates turf preference but he handled the surface in Dubai so there is no reason he might not enjoy dirt. Stamina certainly wouldn't be a problem...not out of the question he could be a legit factor. Would like to see him run in a prep here of course.

FYI, they dont run on dirt in Dubai.

somerfrost · #11 03-28-2011, 10:49 AM

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FYI, they dont run on dirt in Dubai.

That's why I said "surface" not "dirt"....he is in good form and ran well on that surface, his connections will know if he could possibly handle dirt and will decide his future accordingly. All I ever said was he impressed me more the other horses this past weekend, I really don't need the know it all sarcasm!

Merlinsky · #12 03-28-2011, 02:52 AM

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Because he isn't a dirt horse.

Do you think Uncle Mo would beat Frankel in the English Guineas?

Yeah as far as derbies go, I would've thought more Epsom than Kentucky.

Incidentally, I was looking at MOH's pedigree and realized Sadler's Wells turned 30 this year. I wasn't expecting him to be that old. He's still hanging around the paddock as a healthy pensioner, I assume.