Wait On That Abortion

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

but pro-life does.

Not really. At least not in the way the term is used in general -- "pro-life" positions do not leave room for women to make decisions about their own bodies. The "pro-life" position (unless you're using it in a personal abstract, and not the common way we know it) wants to have people completely uninvolved in the situation (legislators) making choices for women, rather than women making them for themselves.

In that way, the "pro-life" position as it's generally understood does not leave room for the pro-choice position at all, because it inherently erases choice -- that's basically the main feature of the entire position.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

Not really. At least not in the way the term is used in general -- "pro-life" positions do not leave room for women to make decisions about their own bodies. The "pro-life" position (unless you're using it in a personal abstract, and not the common way we know it) wants to have people completely uninvolved in the situation (legislators) making choices for women, rather than women making them for themselves.

In that way, the "pro-life" position as it's generally understood does not leave room for the pro-choice position at all, because it inherently erases choice -- that's basically the main feature of the entire position.

Exactly. Not only that, you'd be surprised how many people who are "pro-life" have no problem with an abortion for someone who was raped or incest...yet if it is murder, it is murder in that case as well.

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

Exactly. Not only that, you'd be surprised how many people who are "pro-life" have no problem with an abortion for someone who was raped or incest...yet if it is murder, it is murder in that case as well.

That shows the degree emotion is involved in this topic. As I've said, I cannot supporting forcing women to have a child by legislation but I'm still very uneasy with the number of abortions in this country...I didn't take the time to do the math but easily over 40 million since "Roe"...that's a staggering total!

[Riot]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

That shows the degree emotion is involved in this topic. As I've said, I cannot supporting forcing women to have a child by legislation but I'm still very uneasy with the number of abortions in this country...I didn't take the time to do the math but easily over 40 million since "Roe"...that's a staggering total!

It would be nice if some in our government wouldn't take away programs teaching sex education & birth control classes, and organizations that prevent pregnancy like Planned Parenthood.

[Cannon Shell]

This thread proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that not only should abortion be legal, it should be practiced more often.

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by Riot

It would be nice if some in our government wouldn't take away programs teaching sex education & birth control classes, and organizations that prevent pregnancy like Planned Parenthood.

According to Republican rants, Planned Parenthood is nothing but abortion clinics, this is obviously not the case but folks accept that nonsense as fact. I admit that it disturbs me that the most vocal critics of a woman's right to make her own decision are opposed to education in birth control and likewise offer few if any alternatives.

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

I admit that it disturbs me that the most vocal critics of a woman's right to make her own decision are opposed to education in birth control and likewise offer few if any alternatives.

Uh, how about self-control and preparation? They sell condoms at every pharmacy and convenience store these days. You can be good to go with a three minute delay and about $1 in cost.

Here's an answer until we get a full reversal of the lunacy of the "Roe v. Wade" decision: make the price of abortion high, around a half-million dollars for instance, with no taxpayer involvement. If you screw up, you can get a loan and eventually pay it off like a mortgage or a college education - both of which you'll probably never see. But it's amazing what responsibility emerges in an individual when there is a strong financial reason for it. "Unlimited abortions for free" under Obamacare is the exact opposite of the theoretical plan proposed above.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by joeydb

. "Unlimited abortions for free" under Obamacare .

I cant possibly believe that this statement is true.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by joeydb

Uh, how about self-control and preparation? They sell condoms at every pharmacy and convenience store these days. You can be good to go with a three minute delay and about $1 in cost..

And that comment is the extent of your legally permitted involvement in other people's health and sex lives.