Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by wiphan

Police, Fire Fighter's jobs affect public safety. If you have an extra 2 kids in class I don't think the public's safety is at risk

Police, firefighters and state police all supported the governor in the election, the others did not...has nothing to do with public safety, just another political payback!

[wiphan]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

Police, firefighters and state police all supported the governor in the election, the others did not...has nothing to do with public safety, just another political payback!

This is not true, not all police, fire fighters unions backed walker only a small minority did. BTW-what the teachers are doing by a sick out is completely illegal, not to mention what the dems are doing is acting like my 3 year old daughter when I tell her she can't have candy at 9am. Imagine if the republicans acted like this every time one of obama's bills that they didn't agree with was up for a vote?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by wiphan

Imagine if the republicans acted like this every time one of obama's bills that they didn't agree with was up for a vote?

LOL - have you not watched the Republicans in the United States Senate for the past two years? Obstruction via every possible technical manouver was exactly what they did. Day, after day, after day

The GOP in the House are doing massive political manouvering right now - adding tons of amendments to the short-term financing extension bill, that they know the Dems don't like (defund Planned Parenthood, defund PPACA, etc) - because they know the Senate won't pass that, nor will Obama pass that, so when the government shutdown occurs March 4, the GOP can try and blame the Democrats. The Democrats will blame the GOP for larding up the short-term extension with political culture war issues. That's how it works

Good for the Wisconsin Dems for being smart enough to leave down (as other parties have done in other states, for the same reasons). They are fighting for the ability of people to unionize.

Walker did NOT campaign on the promise to break up unions and eliminate them.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

Good for the Wisconsin Dems for being smart enough to leave down (as other parties have done in other states, for the same reasons). They are fighting for the ability of people to unionize.

So the GOP is doing this strictly to bust unions and eliminate them as political donors (political reasons)

but...

The Democrats are fighting for the poor, oppressed union worker (altruistic reasons)


Uh ok.

This is why debating topics with you is so pointless.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

So the GOP is doing this strictly to bust unions and eliminate them as political donors (political reasons)

but...

The Democrats are fighting for the poor, oppressed union worker (altruistic reasons)


Uh ok.

This is why debating topics with you is so pointless.

Maybe your contributions would be less "pointless" if you'd address what I actually wrote, rather than going off targeting your imaginary straw men

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

Maybe your contributions would be less "pointless" if you'd address what I actually wrote, rather than going off targeting your imaginary straw men

Actually my post was directly on point

Your biases are so severe that you refuse to even acknowledge that you may be biased. You seeminglycontinue to think that you are some centrist and think that anyone who disagrees with you is a right wing zealot. However the reality is that you are the extremist and your continued consistently far left, Huffington Post/Daily Kos/msnbc fueled diatribes ignore the fact that in most cases there is a whole lot more grey than black and white.

[Riot]

Actually my post was directly on point

No, it was silly and off base. I never said the Democrats were remotely "altruistic", nor that they wouldn't benefit by supporting unions. Those were your words. Not mine. Go attack yourself, rather than me. I didn't say what you're attacking me for.

Your biases are so severe that you refuse to even acknowledge that you may be biased. You seeminglycontinue to think that you are some centrist and think that anyone who disagrees with you is a right wing zealot. However the reality is that you are the extremist and your continued consistently far left, Huffington Post/Daily Kos/msnbc fueled diatribes ignore the fact that in most cases there is a whole lot more grey than black and white.

That's alot of going off yapping on your part. Who's the one demonstrating severe biases? Feel better now, dumping on me rather than talking about unions? This is why debating topics with you is so pointless. You can't offer much other than snarky personal attack. And bumper sticker political opinion, that blandly dismisses anything you don't like to hear or you don't agree with.

How about a little analysis on the non-necessity of unions in the 21st century, if that's your view? A little support for Walker's actions?

[Danzig]

there's no way riot's a centrist. surely she doesn't believe she is, since she acknowledges that she's predominantly anti-republ these days...
at any rate, our state and fed govts are supposed to be set up a certain way for a reason. i don't agree with those dems simply leaving town rather than do their job and vote. what ever happened to the spirit of compromise in our govts?