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![]() "Walker wants most public workers — except for police, firefighters and state troopers — to pay more of their pension and health care costs.Walker would also limit pay increases to the inflation rate (currently less than 2 percent) unless voters OK’d larger raises via referendum. Again he’d exempt police, firefighters and troopers from that pay lid. Most controversially, he wants to curb the power of public-sector employee unions, ending collective bargaining rights for state workers (other than law enforcement officers), except over the issue of wages."
Why the favoritism for certain professions? This is flawed. He's exempting people that probably didn't even have to go to college to get their jobs. What brilliant line of thinking resulted in this beauty? |
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Police, Fire Fighter's jobs affect public safety. If you have an extra 2 kids in class I don't think the public's safety is at risk |
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![]() The dismissive tone in this thread for teachers is a little unsettling.
If you've ever been in a classroom after 1990 or are friends with a teacher then you would know that they are up against it. These liberal p.ussy-fart laws have made it nearly impossible to maintain discipline and it has resulted in numerous teachers giving up. These are your "bad" teachers. Sure there are some that are naturally bad, but the majority have given up. Frustrated and disillusioned and controlled by a central office that might as well be a Eunuch's den. The reality is some of these kids should be post-natal aborted. They are a drain on society and their parents should be fixed like dogs. |
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![]() Public sector unions are making political donations with taxpayer dollars nation wide. This is the biggest money laundering scheme in history.
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![]() This is how a WI town with a volunteer Fire Department is protesting today!
http://www.gordysboats.com/AboutGord...tyontheIce.asp
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if you closed all of the public schools today all the kids of parents that want their kids educated will and the ones that just want free day care and free meals will still get that in Illinois 4% of girls under 18 end up pregnant and living off the state. this adds up to too fn many real damn quick. the hell with schools lets build prisons
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"Have the clean racing people run any ads explaining that giving a horse a Starbucks and a chocolate poppyseed muffin for breakfast would likely result in a ten year suspension for the trainer?" - Dr. Andrew Roberts |
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![]() From HuffPost (couldn't find any other "live" comments). That is alot of people!
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Illinois is corrupt did they rescind that?
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![]() I don't understand this: Why do you think they have taxpayer dollars? Since when do taxpayers give money directly to unions? What is money-laundering about it? Union members pay their due, but sorry, that is no longer "taxpayer money" the moment it goes into the paycheck.
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BTW You seem upset Walker is exempting Police and Fire unions because you claim they supported him yet seem fine with Obama exempting unions subscribing to the Obamasocialistcare Plan who supported him? Walker is doing what he promised to do and for a politician that is so refreshing. Great job Governor and On Wisconsin! BTW This is the same guy that sent back the unwanted Federal Rail money feeling the funds would be better used paying down debt. If only we had a Scott Walker for each state. Today winter has returned to WI, we'll see how tough the teachers are. With the teachers planning to sit out another week it is obvious THEIR benefits and contracts trump the children and like the former Fed Flight Controllers they need to all go and be replaced. Planes didn't fall out of the sky as predicted and I'm sure the students will be fine as well. Education is broke right now so we should have no fear fixing it. When teachers fail to teach 50% of students how to read and do basic math in 12 years time they deserve nothing!
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![]() Police, firefighters and state police all supported the governor in the election, the others did not...has nothing to do with public safety, just another political payback!
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![]() This is not true, not all police, fire fighters unions backed walker only a small minority did. BTW-what the teachers are doing by a sick out is completely illegal, not to mention what the dems are doing is acting like my 3 year old daughter when I tell her she can't have candy at 9am. Imagine if the republicans acted like this every time one of obama's bills that they didn't agree with was up for a vote?
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![]() The GOP in the House are doing massive political manouvering right now - adding tons of amendments to the short-term financing extension bill, that they know the Dems don't like (defund Planned Parenthood, defund PPACA, etc) - because they know the Senate won't pass that, nor will Obama pass that, so when the government shutdown occurs March 4, the GOP can try and blame the Democrats. The Democrats will blame the GOP for larding up the short-term extension with political culture war issues. That's how it works ![]() Good for the Wisconsin Dems for being smart enough to leave down (as other parties have done in other states, for the same reasons). They are fighting for the ability of people to unionize. Walker did NOT campaign on the promise to break up unions and eliminate them.
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but... The Democrats are fighting for the poor, oppressed union worker (altruistic reasons) Uh ok. This is why debating topics with you is so pointless. |
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The rank and file of those unions, however, are now standing hand-in-hand with the teachers, nurses and prision guards Walker is trying to union bust.
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