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Old 02-20-2011, 09:32 AM
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heard yesterday on the radio that last year, for the first time ever, that govt workers now make up the majority of union membership. unions have been decreasing for years now, they certainly don't want govts trying to bust them. personally, i think unions are an anachronism. with govt regulations of workplace safety, hours, overtime, etc, are they necessary any more?
also, it's time for those feeding at the public trough to have their salaries, benefits, etc match comparable jobs in the private sector. most states have govt workers who make above the average for their job-why? typically, benefits are also better than in private areas. again, why? on another point, there's a city (i believe in ct) that has their cops up in arms because the mayor has suggested cutting the force a bit. with crime decreasing, it certianly makes sense. so the police are furious and demonstrating. again, why? just another example of people recognizing cuts must be made, which they agree with-til they're the group that gets the cutting. local, regional, state and even the fed have been allowed to grow too much over the years, it's time to cut back.
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Old 02-20-2011, 01:31 PM
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heard yesterday on the radio that last year, for the first time ever, that govt workers now make up the majority of union membership. unions have been decreasing for years now, they certainly don't want govts trying to bust them. personally, i think unions are an anachronism. with govt regulations of workplace safety, hours, overtime, etc, are they necessary any more?
also, it's time for those feeding at the public trough to have their salaries, benefits, etc match comparable jobs in the private sector. most states have govt workers who make above the average for their job-why? typically, benefits are also better than in private areas. again, why?
Don't forget the current Republican house stated they want to try and recall those government regulations regarding, "workplace safety, hours, overtime, etc" laws. FDA, OSHA, EPA - all under current GOP attack to eliminate funding and decrease regulation.

Ezra Kline, Washington Post, has as a third good article on Wisconsin. Please read his analysis of Wisconsin's "budget crisis" (not uninfluenced by Walker just giving $140 million in unfunded tax cuts to corporations, adding that amount to the deficit)

Here's what Klein found regarding public sector pay in Wisconsin, compared to private sector play in Wisconsin (read the article for the details) Notice it is "total" compensation package, including pension, benefits, etc:

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezr...and_local.html

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Old 02-20-2011, 11:56 PM
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heard yesterday on the radio that last year, for the first time ever, that govt workers now make up the majority of union membership. unions have been decreasing for years now, they certainly don't want govts trying to bust them. personally, i think unions are an anachronism. with govt regulations of workplace safety, hours, overtime, etc, are they necessary any more?
also, it's time for those feeding at the public trough to have their salaries, benefits, etc match comparable jobs in the private sector. most states have govt workers who make above the average for their job-why? typically, benefits are also better than in private areas. again, why? on another point, there's a city (i believe in ct) that has their cops up in arms because the mayor has suggested cutting the force a bit. with crime decreasing, it certianly makes sense. so the police are furious and demonstrating. again, why? just another example of people recognizing cuts must be made, which they agree with-til they're the group that gets the cutting. local, regional, state and even the fed have been allowed to grow too much over the years, it's time to cut back.
A good personnel department can solution any disputes fairly and quickly. There are a myriad of laws in place now. The public unions protect the incompetent and abusers. How many times are people out on leave forever with pay while nothing is resolved ? The public unions only serve themselves at taxpayer expense.
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