Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i dont agree with public servants having a union. police, fire, health, and teachers have no business ever striking, or ever putting the public they serve in danger-or in a teachers case, uneducated.
teachers make damn good money for the hours they work, they have great vacation, sick days, time off, and great bennies. all for working less than six months out of the year. where do i sign up??

I had a roommate who was a teacher in the public school system. She worked from 7AM every morning (she left for work at 6:30) until about 11PM at night (when she got home she went straight to grading papers and preparing lessons). Between end-of-year stuff and preparing for the upcoming year, she only had about one month where I'd say she wasn't working. Great gig.

[Danzig]

i worked for several years at the schools here. they passed block scheduling a few years ago. the teachers teach three classes a day at 1 1/2 hours per class. it is a sweet gig. 178 days a year with kids in front of you. wknds, holidays, more vacation time than any other profession. yep, it's rough.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

I had a roommate who was a teacher in the public school system. She worked from 7AM every morning (she left for work at 6:30) until about 11PM at night (when she got home she went straight to grading papers and preparing lessons). Between end-of-year stuff and preparing for the upcoming year, she only had about one month where I'd say she wasn't working. Great gig.

Schools get out at 2-3 in the afternoon. You want us to believe your friend willingly worked 8 extra hours a day AFTER classes? What did she teach? Nuclear physics?

[AeWingnut]

Riot would agree with this 2 word vocabulary guy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qz3v3Paar_M

[Danzig]

tony was just flipping channels. landed on international house hunters. lo and behold, a cali schoolteacher looking to buy a second home in italy. her quote-i have tons of time off...

[DaTruth]

Originally Posted by AeWingnut

Riot would agree with this 2 word vocabulary guy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qz3v3Paar_M

See what the guy chanting "Zenyatta" at Del Mar has spawned.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

"Walker wants most public workers — except for police, firefighters and state troopers — to pay more of their pension and health care costs.Walker would also limit pay increases to the inflation rate (currently less than 2 percent) unless voters OK’d larger raises via referendum. Again he’d exempt police, firefighters and troopers from that pay lid. Most controversially, he wants to curb the power of public-sector employee unions, ending collective bargaining rights for state workers (other than law enforcement officers), except over the issue of wages."


Why the favoritism for certain professions? This is flawed. He's exempting people that probably didn't even have to go to college to get their jobs. What brilliant line of thinking resulted in this beauty?

[wiphan]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

"Walker wants most public workers — except for police, firefighters and state troopers — to pay more of their pension and health care costs.Walker would also limit pay increases to the inflation rate (currently less than 2 percent) unless voters OK’d larger raises via referendum. Again he’d exempt police, firefighters and troopers from that pay lid. Most controversially, he wants to curb the power of public-sector employee unions, ending collective bargaining rights for state workers (other than law enforcement officers), except over the issue of wages."


Why the favoritism for certain professions? This is flawed. He's exempting people that probably didn't even have to go to college to get their jobs. What brilliant line of thinking resulted in this beauty?

Police, Fire Fighter's jobs affect public safety. If you have an extra 2 kids in class I don't think the public's safety is at risk

The dismissive tone in this thread for teachers is a little unsettling.

If you've ever been in a classroom after 1990 or are friends with a teacher then you would know that they are up against it. These liberal p.ussy-fart laws have made it nearly impossible to maintain discipline and it has resulted in numerous teachers giving up.

These are your "bad" teachers. Sure there are some that are naturally bad, but the majority have given up. Frustrated and disillusioned and controlled by a central office that might as well be a Eunuch's den.

The reality is some of these kids should be post-natal aborted. They are a drain on society and their parents should be fixed like dogs.

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by wiphan

Police, Fire Fighter's jobs affect public safety. If you have an extra 2 kids in class I don't think the public's safety is at risk

Police, firefighters and state police all supported the governor in the election, the others did not...has nothing to do with public safety, just another political payback!

[Riot]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

"Walker wants most public workers — except for police, firefighters and state troopers — to pay more of their pension and health care costs.Walker would also limit pay increases to the inflation rate (currently less than 2 percent) unless voters OK’d larger raises via referendum. Again he’d exempt police, firefighters and troopers from that pay lid. Most controversially, he wants to curb the power of public-sector employee unions, ending collective bargaining rights for state workers (other than law enforcement officers), except over the issue of wages."

Why the favoritism for certain professions? This is flawed. He's exempting people that probably didn't even have to go to college to get their jobs. What brilliant line of thinking resulted in this beauty?

The police and firefighters were exempted because those unions supported Walker's election. It's political payback.

The rank and file of those unions, however, are now standing hand-in-hand with the teachers, nurses and prision guards Walker is trying to union bust.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by AeWingnut

Riot would agree with this 2 word vocabulary guy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qz3v3Paar_M

All the objective measurements seem to agree with the 2 word vocabulary guy. Fox News viewers are the least factually-educated about news events.

[AeWingnut]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Schools get out at 2-3 in the afternoon. You want us to believe your friend willingly worked 8 extra hours a day AFTER classes? What did she teach? Nuclear physics?

or sex ed

[Danzig]

interesting article, on the stimulus, state govts, wisconsin, etc


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41650031/ns/politics/

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Danzig

interesting article, on the stimulus, state govts, wisconsin, etc

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41650031/ns/politics/

You know every time Gov. Rick Perry down in Texas screams about how anti-federal government he is, how Tea Party he is, how "No Government Handouts!" he is, how states rights - seccesion he is?

His entire state is held up by federal dollars supporting the fact his state is broke. The federal government is enabling local police, fire, etc to be paid. The stimulus funds saved many a state, in the past two years, from having to lay off workers.

[The Bart]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Schools get out at 2-3 in the afternoon. You want us to believe your friend willingly worked 8 extra hours a day AFTER classes? What did she teach? Nuclear physics?

This was back in the '60s or '70s, when teachers TAUGHT the and the students LEARNED, not the 21st century, where teachers don't teach SH#T!!