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Old 02-14-2011, 11:45 AM
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No, I don't think a religion that treats women poorly is a good one - like how some Christians dictate what a woman can do with her body. You're in the category, too.

Your comparison between the treatment of muslim women and christians dictating what a woman does with her body is very telling. Those christians (you speak of) feel as though abortion is murder and their religion tells them so. Believe it or not their motivation is not in controlling women but preserving a life. Personally I think they should be responsible for themselves but can understand them not wanting their money to be used in what they consider a murder. Unlike their muslim counterpart they are not trying to tell a woman she can't date, drive, who to marry, how to dress, where they can go and who they can talk to. They also don't kill their daughters to preserve their honor and certainly don't circumcise their little girls. Though some Christians admittedly do insist on marrying a virgin.

But yea I see how you think they are similar
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Old 02-14-2011, 11:49 AM
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Your comparison between the treatment of muslim women and christians dictating what a woman does with her body is very telling. Those christians (you speak of) feel as though abortion is murder and their religion tells them so. Believe it or not their motivation is not in controlling women but preserving a life. Personally I think they should be responsible for themselves but can understand them not wanting their money to be used in what they consider a muder. Unlike their muslim counterpart they are not trying to tell a woman she can't date, drive, who to marry, how to dress, where they can go and who they can talk to. They also don't kill their daughters to preserve their honor and certainly don't circumcise their little girls. Though some Christians admittedly do insist on marrying a virgin.

But yea I see how you think they are similar
You didn't understand what I said. Again.

My comparison was that I think all religions put strange controls on their adherents, and some in all religions use their religion to treat women poorly.

My comparison was not that I think what some Muslims and what some Christians do are similar or equal in "badness", it was not a comparison of relative requirements between two different religions.

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Unlike their muslim counterpart they are not trying to tell a woman she can't date, drive, who to marry, how to dress, where they can go and who they can talk to. They also don't kill their daughters to preserve their honor and certainly don't circumcise their little girls.
I assume you are aware that millions and millions and millions of Muslims do not do that? That much of what you list is extreme and not followed by the majority? That what you list is not representative of most of Islam?

And Dell, when you take a quote I make, and you cut out the middle, it is courtesy that you indicate to other readers that you have taken two separate sentences and strung them together randomly, with you changing the meaning of what I've said, because you've left out whole sentences.

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"No, I don't think a religion that treats women poorly is a good one - like how some Christians dictate what a woman can do with her body." [snip] "You're in the category, too."
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You didn't understand what I said. Again.

My comparison was that I think all religions put strange controls on their adherents, and some in all religions use their religion to treat women poorly.

My comparison was not that I think what some Muslims and what some Christians do are similar or equal in "badness", it was not a comparison of relative requirements between two different religions.
the comparison was similar to a drop of water in my sink and the Pacific Ocean. It made little sense and was obviously used to bash christians and that has become sort of a theme for you recently.
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the comparison was similar to a drop of water in my sink and the Pacific Ocean.
Bashing Muslims, are you?

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It made little sense to me and was obviously used to bash christians like I bash Muslims and that has become sort of a theme for you to copy me recently.
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Bashing Muslims, are you?
Yea but not the religion just their actions like: telling a woman she can't date, drive, who to marry, how to dress, where they can go and who they can talk to. Killing their daughters to preserve their honor and circumcising their little girls. That's all for now.
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Yea but not the religion just their actions like: telling a woman she can't date, drive, who to marry, how to dress, where they can go and who they can talk to. Killing their daughters to preserve their honor and circumcising their little girls. That's all for now.
Too bad "Muslims" don't do all that on a regular basis in the real world.
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Your comparison between the treatment of muslim women and christians dictating what a woman does with her body is very telling. Those christians (you speak of) feel as though abortion is murder and their religion tells them so. Believe it or not their motivation is not in controlling women but preserving a life. Personally I think they should be responsible for themselves but can understand them not wanting their money to be used in what they consider a murder. Unlike their muslim counterpart they are not trying to tell a woman she can't date, drive, who to marry, how to dress, where they can go and who they can talk to. They also don't kill their daughters to preserve their honor and certainly don't circumcise their little girls. Though some Christians admittedly do insist on marrying a virgin.

But yea I see how you think they are similar


that was great Dell.. and spot on
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I would like to know Riot... the great judger of all people..

What category did you say I am in?

The bigoted Muslim hater category??

or the disrespectful towards women category?
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since Riot is throwing out all sorts of inflammitory labels at people today

I'm naming Riot the Bigot of America.

I'm sick of the whole bigoted America hate thing going on from Riot. It's appalling, shameful and stupid, and shouldn't be tolerated. It makes Riot look ignorant. She thinks Christians and Conservatives and Americans must be struck down.
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since Riot is throwing out all sorts of inflammitory labels at people today

I'm naming Riot the Bigot of America.

I'm sick of the whole bigoted America hate thing going on from Riot. It's appalling, shameful and stupid, and shouldn't be tolerated. It makes Riot look ignorant. She thinks Christians and Conservatives and Americans must be struck down.
Riot throwing all sorts of inflammitory labels at people today. This is a new thing I didnt know about. Riot would that? Hmmmmm. Riot will now label you also as a hateful person. Welcome to the club. Lots of people are hateful according to Riot.
Instead of Bigot of America maybe Bimbo of America suits Riot.
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since Riot is throwing out all sorts of inflammitory labels at people today

I'm naming Riot the Bigot of America.

I'm sick of the whole bigoted America hate thing going on from Riot. It's appalling, shameful and stupid, and shouldn't be tolerated. It makes Riot look ignorant. She thinks Christians and Conservatives and Americans must be struck down.

I think she shares the self-loathing being an American as Obama & Co. does. She and they think we made our bones not by capitalism but by taking advantage of others.

BTW Don't tap the glass, they (being Riot & Co.) think they'll win in a landslide. With the new recreation of Obama as Reagan?

Can't make a Ford Pinto into a GMC C4500 ever!
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I think she shares the self-loathing being an American as Obama & Co. does. She and they think we made our bones not by capitalism but by taking advantage of others.
"Self-loathing". Seriously? Are you looking the mirror or something?

I've started a company from scratch, made a profit and sold it, and now own another. Love that capitalism

Who do you work for?
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Friday, January 21, 2011
Obama doing well in key states
http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot....ey-states.html

There's been a lot of good news for Barack Obama in the national polls lately and certainly that's important. But we still have this funny little electoral college so what's going to be most vital for his reelection prospects is how he does in the key swing states. And there's good news for him there as well.

So far we've done 2012 Presidential polls in 6 of the 9 states that George W. Bush won in 2004 but that Obama won in 2008. Obama leads 23 out of 24 hypothetical match ups that we've tested in those states.

Here's how it breaks down:

Obama vs. Gingrich
Florida +5
Iowa +13
Nevada +11
North Carolina +6
Ohio +6
Virginia +11

Obama vs. Huckabee
Florida +5
Iowa +4
Nevada +10
North Carolina -1
Ohio +1
Virginia +5

Obama vs. Palin
Florida +14
Iowa +16
Nevada +13
North Carolina +14
Ohio +7
Virgina +11

Obama vs Romney
Florida +2
Iowa +6
Nevada +1
North Carolina +3
Ohio +2
Virginia +5

Obama also wins Colorado.
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"Self-loathing". Seriously? Are you looking the mirror or something?

I've started a company from scratch, made a profit and sold it, and now own another. Love that capitalism

Who do you work for?
You know who I work for. And I think you have capitalism and socialism all mixed up. I know you praised Clinton for furnishing you a educational loan and you hate your insurance co (at least your former ins. co.) hopefully. You want the government to offer you as well as anyone else even those who can't afford and those who have to be supplemented a health policy. You agreed with every bailout program ever imagined by Obama GM, Fannie/Freddie etc etc government involvement and now you love capitalism? That's about as funny as your christians v. muslims arguements.
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