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[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Riot

Doreen thinks:


Ah. Then I'll put you clearly into the religious bigot category.

So you think a religion that treats women as poorly as the Muslim religion does is a good one?

Its probably the worst religion going... though they all have major issues.

[Antitrust32]

Disclaimer so I'm not thought to be a bigot:

The only Muslims that I hate are the 100,000,000 Muslims that support a radical version of Islam and support the jihad.

I dont have a problem with the other 900,000,000, as long as they treat a woman they same as they treat a man.

With that said, it is not a good book at all though.

But I feel that the Old testiment is a bad book also... right up there with the Quran.

[Riot]

Disclaimer so I'm not thought to be a bigot:

The only Muslims that I hate are the 100,000,000 Muslims that support a radical version of Islam and support the jihad.

Can you explain how you arrived at the figure of 100,000,000?

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Riot

Can you explain how you arrived at the figure of 100,000,000?

through research. I've posted all sorts of research on it in another thread months back. You are welcome to look for it, I dont have the time right now.

it is certainly not a number that I just pulled out of my ass.. and it may not be a 100% correct number, but it is right around the correct #.

I should write APPROX 100,000,000 Muslims.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

So you think a religion that treats women as poorly as the Muslim religion does is a good one?

Its probably the worst religion going... though they all have major issues.

No, I don't think a religion that treats women poorly is a good one - like how some Christians dictate what a woman can do with her body. But that has absolutely nothing to do with the post you quoted. A more telling relationship would be you thinking that all Muslims treat women poorly. That's pretty right on. You're in the category, too.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

No, I don't think a religion that treats women poorly is a good one - like how some Christians dictate what a woman can do with her body. You're in the category, too.

Your comparison between the treatment of muslim women and christians dictating what a woman does with her body is very telling. Those christians (you speak of) feel as though abortion is murder and their religion tells them so. Believe it or not their motivation is not in controlling women but preserving a life. Personally I think they should be responsible for themselves but can understand them not wanting their money to be used in what they consider a murder. Unlike their muslim counterpart they are not trying to tell a woman she can't date, drive, who to marry, how to dress, where they can go and who they can talk to. They also don't kill their daughters to preserve their honor and certainly don't circumcise their little girls. Though some Christians admittedly do insist on marrying a virgin.

But yea I see how you think they are similar

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Your comparison between the treatment of muslim women and christians dictating what a woman does with her body is very telling. Those christians (you speak of) feel as though abortion is murder and their religion tells them so. Believe it or not their motivation is not in controlling women but preserving a life. Personally I think they should be responsible for themselves but can understand them not wanting their money to be used in what they consider a muder. Unlike their muslim counterpart they are not trying to tell a woman she can't date, drive, who to marry, how to dress, where they can go and who they can talk to. They also don't kill their daughters to preserve their honor and certainly don't circumcise their little girls. Though some Christians admittedly do insist on marrying a virgin.

But yea I see how you think they are similar

You didn't understand what I said. Again.

My comparison was that I think all religions put strange controls on their adherents, and some in all religions use their religion to treat women poorly.

My comparison was not that I think what some Muslims and what some Christians do are similar or equal in "badness", it was not a comparison of relative requirements between two different religions.

Unlike their muslim counterpart they are not trying to tell a woman she can't date, drive, who to marry, how to dress, where they can go and who they can talk to. They also don't kill their daughters to preserve their honor and certainly don't circumcise their little girls.

I assume you are aware that millions and millions and millions of Muslims do not do that? That much of what you list is extreme and not followed by the majority? That what you list is not representative of most of Islam?

And Dell, when you take a quote I make, and you cut out the middle, it is courtesy that you indicate to other readers that you have taken two separate sentences and strung them together randomly, with you changing the meaning of what I've said, because you've left out whole sentences.

Like this:
"No, I don't think a religion that treats women poorly is a good one - like how some Christians dictate what a woman can do with her body." [snip] "You're in the category, too."

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

You didn't understand what I said. Again.

My comparison was that I think all religions put strange controls on their adherents, and some in all religions use their religion to treat women poorly.

My comparison was not that I think what some Muslims and what some Christians do are similar or equal in "badness", it was not a comparison of relative requirements between two different religions.

the comparison was similar to a drop of water in my sink and the Pacific Ocean. It made little sense and was obviously used to bash christians and that has become sort of a theme for you recently.

[Riot]

[quote]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

the comparison was similar to a drop of water in my sink and the Pacific Ocean.

Bashing Muslims, are you?

It made little sense to me and was obviously used to bash christians like I bash Muslims and that has become sort of a theme for you to copy me recently.

FTFY

[dellinger63]

[quote=Riot;752313]

Bashing Muslims, are you?

Yea but not the religion just their actions like: telling a woman she can't date, drive, who to marry, how to dress, where they can go and who they can talk to. Killing their daughters to preserve their honor and circumcising their little girls. That's all for now.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Your comparison between the treatment of muslim women and christians dictating what a woman does with her body is very telling. Those christians (you speak of) feel as though abortion is murder and their religion tells them so. Believe it or not their motivation is not in controlling women but preserving a life. Personally I think they should be responsible for themselves but can understand them not wanting their money to be used in what they consider a murder. Unlike their muslim counterpart they are not trying to tell a woman she can't date, drive, who to marry, how to dress, where they can go and who they can talk to. They also don't kill their daughters to preserve their honor and certainly don't circumcise their little girls. Though some Christians admittedly do insist on marrying a virgin.

But yea I see how you think they are similar

that was great Dell.. and spot on

[Antitrust32]

I would like to know Riot... the great judger of all people..

What category did you say I am in?

The bigoted Muslim hater category??

or the disrespectful towards women category?

[Antitrust32]

since Riot is throwing out all sorts of inflammitory labels at people today

I'm naming Riot the Bigot of America.

I'm sick of the whole bigoted America hate thing going on from Riot. It's appalling, shameful and stupid, and shouldn't be tolerated. It makes Riot look ignorant. She thinks Christians and Conservatives and Americans must be struck down.

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

since Riot is throwing out all sorts of inflammitory labels at people today

I'm naming Riot the Bigot of America.

I'm sick of the whole bigoted America hate thing going on from Riot. It's appalling, shameful and stupid, and shouldn't be tolerated. It makes Riot look ignorant. She thinks Christians and Conservatives and Americans must be struck down.

Riot throwing all sorts of inflammitory labels at people today. This is a new thing I didnt know about. Riot would that? Hmmmmm. Riot will now label you also as a hateful person. Welcome to the club. Lots of people are hateful according to Riot.
Instead of Bigot of America maybe Bimbo of America suits Riot.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

since Riot is throwing out all sorts of inflammitory labels at people today

I'm naming Riot the Bigot of America.

I'm sick of the whole bigoted America hate thing going on from Riot. It's appalling, shameful and stupid, and shouldn't be tolerated. It makes Riot look ignorant. She thinks Christians and Conservatives and Americans must be struck down.

I think she shares the self-loathing being an American as Obama & Co. does. She and they think we made our bones not by capitalism but by taking advantage of others.

BTW Don't tap the glass, they (being Riot & Co.) think they'll win in a landslide. With the new recreation of Obama as Reagan?

Can't make a Ford Pinto into a GMC C4500 ever!

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Riot

No, I don't think a religion that treats women poorly is a good one - like how some Christians dictate what a woman can do with her body. But that has absolutely nothing to do with the post you quoted. A more telling relationship would be you thinking that all Muslims treat women poorly. That's pretty right on. You're in the category, too.

no ma'am.

I'm in the realist category that you preach about high upon your pulpit.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

no ma'am.

I'm in the realist category that you preach about high upon your pulpit.

Yes, I did see where you changed your answer to "some".

But how did you arrive at your figure of the number of jihadists? Was there a census?

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Riot

Yes, I did see where you changed your answer to "some".

But how did you arrive at your figure of the number of jihadists? Was there a census?

I never changed or edited any of my answers.

I posted how I came up with that figure in another thread from months ago. It was just through researching on the internet.. Most of the info prob came from Wiki.

Its estimated that there are 1 billion Muslims in the world. Its estimated that 10% support the jihad agenda (might not all be violent, but support those actions). 10% of 1 billion is 100,000,000.

[Riot]

I never changed or edited any of my answers.

I am referring to your "Disclaimer" post.

I posted how I came up with that figure in another thread from months ago. It was just through researching on the internet.. Most of the info prob came from Wiki.

Its estimated that there are 1 billion Muslims in the world. Its estimated that 10% support the jihad agenda (might not all be violent, but support those actions). 10% of 1 billion is 100,000,000.

I wonder who did that estimating? And how would they do it? It's not like there's a "Club Jihad" folks can join, where membership could be counted ...

There was an instance, a little over a year ago, where Glenn Beck just pulled a number out of his ass, and said it on his radio show. That number was 10%.

The amazing thing is that, if there are really 100 million terrorists out there, why are we wasting time trying to fight 200-400 Al Quaeda in Afghanistan, Yemen, and Pakistan? Puzzling ....

[Antitrust32]

It was certainly not Glenn Beck who gave me that number.

You are welcome to search through threads if you want to find my sources.

And it was not any right wing leaning sites either.