8/21 (AP): International Festival of Racing

[PatCummings]

Originally Posted by tiggerv

Hard to ask for a better trip from Tazeez and he still couldn't get it done.

Are you serious? What race were you watching?

Tazeez hopped in the air then swerved out at the start, spotted next to last almost two lengths, then was rushed up under Richard Hills to pass the entire field in the first quarter mile, settled on the rail, then sped up to run a 23.3 third quarter, was sent for home with three furlongs left, and despite all of this, was STILL beaten only 2.5 lengths. He did the most running.

[Bogey]

Originally Posted by PatCummings

Are you serious? What race were you watching?

Tazeez hopped in the air then swerved out at the start, spotted next to last almost two lengths, then was rushed up under Richard Hills to pass the entire field in the first quarter mile, settled on the rail, then sped up to run a 23.3 third quarter, was sent for home with three furlongs left, and despite all of this, was STILL beaten only 2.5 lengths. He did the most running.

Totally agree after his terrible start took him out of his game. Fine effort. Gosden came loaded this year. Congrats to him for finally getting the win in the MILLION. Class act. Congrats to all connected with Debussy. Probably pointed to the BC Turf at CD according to Gosden.

[tiggerv]

You guys are overrating his trouble at the start. It was no worse a trip than GP being 7 wide or Debussy being blocked the entire turn into the stretch.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by tiggerv

You guys are overrating his trouble at the start. It was no worse a trip than GP being 7 wide or Debussy being blocked the entire turn into the stretch.

You're not really trying to say that Tazeez and Debussy had comparably troubled trips are you? I really hope not, Debussy's trip was absolutely AMAZING.

NT

[tiggerv]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

You're not really trying to say that Tazeez and Debussy had comparably troubled trips are you? I really hope not, Debussy's trip was absolutely AMAZING.

NT

Debussy wins by 5+ if he is not blocked by slugs Quite a Handful and General Quarters on the turn. He was absolutely loaded but had to sit and wait. I wouldn't call any of their trips troubled either. My only point was GP and Debussy likely lost as many lengths as Tazeez did when he reared.

[PatCummings]

Originally Posted by tiggerv

Debussy wins by 5+ if he is not blocked by slugs Quite a Handful and General Quarters on the turn. He was absolutely loaded but had to sit and wait. I wouldn't call any of their trips troubled either. My only point was GP and Debussy likely lost as many lengths as Tazeez did when he reared.

When did Debussy lose lengths due to anyone in that race, maybe a length, MAYBE, leaving the backstretch (but that was due to others quickening before he did).

It's not just about losing ground to me, it's about being completely thrown off your game, rushed up, backed down, then asked to run your fastest quarter in the third quarter of a five quarter race, and STILL being in the frame at the end.

[-BT-]

Originally Posted by PatCummings

When did Debussy lose lengths due to anyone in that race, maybe a length, MAYBE, leaving the backstretch (but that was due to others quickening before he did).

It's not just about losing ground to me, it's about being completely thrown off your game, rushed up, backed down, then asked to run your fastest quarter in the third quarter of a five quarter race, and STILL being in the frame at the end.

excellent ride by the jock, i thought he did lose some lengths when the 5 started backing up, almost thought the five was gonna take him out of the whole race. I literally told myself (no lie) watching the replay if the 2 gets a hole he looks the best, never thought he had the turn of foot to gun down gio ponti though, that horse came flying. one of the most patient rides i've seen in years, much the best today.

-bt-

[GPK]

Anyone have a link to the replays? Calracing doesn't show AP

[Bogey]

Originally Posted by tiggerv

You guys are overrating his trouble at the start. It was no worse a trip than GP being 7 wide or Debussy being blocked the entire turn into the stretch.

He was taken out of his game, he wants to be forwardly placed and made the adjustment.

[PatCummings]

Originally Posted by tiggerv

You guys are overrating his trouble at the start. It was no worse a trip than GP being 7 wide or Debussy being blocked the entire turn into the stretch.

Wow. This is the exact opposite of pure genius. Have you watched the replay? Debussy waited for a spot to open at the top of the stretch...and it did. Pretty perfect in my eye. Gio Ponti angled wide at the midpoint of the far turn, he wasn't seven wide the whole way.

Both had easier trips than Tazeez, by far.

[VOL JACK]

Originally Posted by Bogey

Totally agree after his terrible start took him out of his game. Fine effort. Gosden came loaded this year. Congrats to him for finally getting the win in the MILLION. Class act. Congrats to all connected with Debussy. Probably pointed to the BC Turf at CD according to Gosden.

Lock city!!

[Bogey]

Originally Posted by VOL JACK

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Lock city!!

Let's hope that PG doesn't hop aboard.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by VOL JACK

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Lock city!!

I doubt it.

I would obviously expect a much deeper group of Euro's to show up for the BC Turf than the 3 who came over for the AP Million today.

Running over the top of Gio Ponti isn't exactly impressive when he applies the air breaks like he did. The 3rd place finisher in the Million got a really oddball ride. He reared at the start - pushed the pace - and his rider acted as though the 1/4 pole was really the finish line. That was like vintage Jamie Spencer.