8/21 (AP): International Festival of Racing

eajinabi · #1 08-21-2010, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by the_fat_man

Incredibly INEXCUSABLE ride by Dominguez. Tons the best and gets the horse beat. Guess he's only good at the save ground-last move ride on claimers.

I have been saying that for a while. When real money is on the line he doesnt deliver. However most people on this board thinks he is the greatest turf rider in the last 30 yrs

tiggerv · #2 08-21-2010, 05:41 PM

Hard to ask for a better trip from Tazeez and he still couldn't get it done.

Need Perfect Shirl tonight to make it up.

brockguy · #3 08-21-2010, 05:51 PM

Buick cut it fine turned a near disastrous ride into a winning one - he is a smashing lad.. would have been fun to cheer him home with the Chicago guys in the stands

CSC · #4 08-21-2010, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by brockguy

Buick cut it fine turned a near disastrous ride into a winning one - he is a smashing lad.. would have been fun to cheer him home with the Chicago guys in the stands

Buick is an up and comer, he rode a blinder in the EP Taylor last year. I like this kid.

PatCummings · #5 08-21-2010, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by tiggerv

Hard to ask for a better trip from Tazeez and he still couldn't get it done.

Are you serious? What race were you watching?

Tazeez hopped in the air then swerved out at the start, spotted next to last almost two lengths, then was rushed up under Richard Hills to pass the entire field in the first quarter mile, settled on the rail, then sped up to run a 23.3 third quarter, was sent for home with three furlongs left, and despite all of this, was STILL beaten only 2.5 lengths. He did the most running.

Bogey · #6 08-21-2010, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by PatCummings

Are you serious? What race were you watching?

Tazeez hopped in the air then swerved out at the start, spotted next to last almost two lengths, then was rushed up under Richard Hills to pass the entire field in the first quarter mile, settled on the rail, then sped up to run a 23.3 third quarter, was sent for home with three furlongs left, and despite all of this, was STILL beaten only 2.5 lengths. He did the most running.

Totally agree after his terrible start took him out of his game. Fine effort. Gosden came loaded this year. Congrats to him for finally getting the win in the MILLION. Class act. Congrats to all connected with Debussy. Probably pointed to the BC Turf at CD according to Gosden.

tiggerv · #7 08-21-2010, 07:55 PM

You guys are overrating his trouble at the start. It was no worse a trip than GP being 7 wide or Debussy being blocked the entire turn into the stretch.

NTamm1215 · #8 08-21-2010, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by tiggerv

You guys are overrating his trouble at the start. It was no worse a trip than GP being 7 wide or Debussy being blocked the entire turn into the stretch.

You're not really trying to say that Tazeez and Debussy had comparably troubled trips are you? I really hope not, Debussy's trip was absolutely AMAZING.

NT

tiggerv · #9 08-21-2010, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215

You're not really trying to say that Tazeez and Debussy had comparably troubled trips are you? I really hope not, Debussy's trip was absolutely AMAZING.

NT

Debussy wins by 5+ if he is not blocked by slugs Quite a Handful and General Quarters on the turn. He was absolutely loaded but had to sit and wait. I wouldn't call any of their trips troubled either. My only point was GP and Debussy likely lost as many lengths as Tazeez did when he reared.

Bogey · #10 08-21-2010, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by tiggerv

You guys are overrating his trouble at the start. It was no worse a trip than GP being 7 wide or Debussy being blocked the entire turn into the stretch.

He was taken out of his game, he wants to be forwardly placed and made the adjustment.

PatCummings · #11 08-21-2010, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by tiggerv

You guys are overrating his trouble at the start. It was no worse a trip than GP being 7 wide or Debussy being blocked the entire turn into the stretch.

Wow. This is the exact opposite of pure genius. Have you watched the replay? Debussy waited for a spot to open at the top of the stretch...and it did. Pretty perfect in my eye. Gio Ponti angled wide at the midpoint of the far turn, he wasn't seven wide the whole way.

Both had easier trips than Tazeez, by far.

VOL JACK · #12 08-21-2010, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogey

Totally agree after his terrible start took him out of his game. Fine effort. Gosden came loaded this year. Congrats to him for finally getting the win in the MILLION. Class act. Congrats to all connected with Debussy. Probably pointed to the BC Turf at CD according to Gosden.

Lock city!!

Bogey · #13 08-21-2010, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by VOL JACK

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Lock city!!

Let's hope that PG doesn't hop aboard.

The Indomitable DrugS · #14 08-21-2010, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by VOL JACK

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Lock city!!

I doubt it.

I would obviously expect a much deeper group of Euro's to show up for the BC Turf than the 3 who came over for the AP Million today.

Running over the top of Gio Ponti isn't exactly impressive when he applies the air breaks like he did. The 3rd place finisher in the Million got a really oddball ride. He reared at the start - pushed the pace - and his rider acted as though the 1/4 pole was really the finish line. That was like vintage Jamie Spencer.

The Indomitable DrugS · #15 08-21-2010, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by eajinabi

I have been saying that for a while. When real money is on the line he doesnt deliver. However most people on this board thinks he is the greatest turf rider in the last 30 yrs

I don't know about 30 - but he's unquestionably the best turf rider since Bailey retired - and for my money he's better than Bailey ever was in turf races.

eajinabi · #16 08-22-2010, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

I don't know about 30 - but he's unquestionably the best turf rider since Bailey retired - and for my money he's better than Bailey ever was in turf races.

Value wise you are going to get a better price on Dominguez than you would on Bailey. HOWEVER when the going gets tough I would take bailey over Dominguez anyday. Dominguez is a great common every day claiming rider but he is no Bailey.

The Indomitable DrugS · #17 08-22-2010, 12:11 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8a4d...feature=search

By the way: Bailey had a ton of caddy's for guys like Mott and Frankel in those big Gr 1 turf races.

eajinabi · #18 08-22-2010, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8a4d...feature=search

By the way: Bailey had a ton of caddy's for guys like Mott and Frankel in those big Gr 1 turf races.

Nice link. Dominguez wins his lone BC win. What does that prove??

If I could only find the link for Baileys win on Chester House in the 2000 Arlington million as a rebuttal. Brilliant ride!