What Horses are not in the Hall of Fame you think should be?

[Bigsmc]

Zippy Chippy

[Port Conway Lane]

Anyone remember the name of the maiden in New Jersey who held the record that Zippy beat ? I think it was a mare who ran at least 70 times before doing it. It was mid 90's.

[Indian Charlie]

Giant's Causeway, Point Given (or is he in?) and Rock Hard Ten.

[kgar311]

Lemon Drop Kid horse, Jean Cruguet jockey

[slotdirt]

Black Tie Affair!

[PatCummings]

Point Given is getting in this year and I think its one of the biggest shams in the history of the HOF. A joke that he is getting in...

[slotdirt]

Maybe they'll have a replay of the "Point Given, not today" Derby stretch run at his induction?

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by kgar311

Lemon Drop Kid horse, Jean Cruguet jockey

Lemon Drop Kid deserves a lot better than this post.

[kgar311]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Lemon Drop Kid deserves a lot better than this post.

Didnt know I was suppose to author his life story after posting his name. You are more than welcome to fill everyone in on his lifetime achievements if you like.

[kgar311]

Lemon Drop Kid Race Record
Age Starts 1st (SW) 2nd (sp) 3rd (sp) Earnings
2 6 2 (1) 2 (1) 1 $222,070
3 9 3 (2) 1 (1) 1 (1) $1,349,400
4 9 5 (4) 0 1 (1) $1,673,900
24 10 (7) 3 (2) 3 (2) $3,245,370
(RI: 59.30)
(4, 9f, Career best Rag# -)

At 2: 1st Futurity S.-G1 ($150,000, Bel, 8f, 1:37.50, dftd. Yes It's True, Medievil Hero), 2nd Champagne S.-G1 ($400,000, Bel).

At 3: 1st Belmont S.-G1 ($1,000,000, Bel, 12f, 2:27.88, dftd. Vision and Verse, Charismatic), Travers S.-G1 ($1,000,000, Sar, 10f, 2:02.19, dftd. Vision and Verse, Menifee), 2nd Jim Dandy S.-G2 ($300,000, Sar), 3rd Peter Pan S.-G2 ($150,000, Bel).

At 4: Champion Older Male, 1st Whitney H.-G1 (Rag# 0) ($1,042,000, Sar, 9f, 1:48.30, dftd. Cat Thief, Behrens), Woodward S.-G1 ($500,000, Bel, 9f, 1:50.53, dftd. Behrens, Gander), Suburban H.-G2 ($500,000, Bel, 10f, 1:58.97, by 2 1/2 lengths, dftd. Behrens, Lager), Brooklyn H.-G2 ($250,000, Bel, 9f, 1:49.93, by 7 1/4 lengths, dftd. Lager, Down the Aisle), 3rd Pimlico Special H.-G1 ($750,000, Pim).

[Echo Farm]

Originally Posted by Bigsmc

Zippy Chippy

DOÑA CHEPA before ZC

[blackthroatedwind]

Anybody that saw Jean Cruget ride would find the suggestion, a serious one that is, that he belongs in the Hall of Fame, to be beyond laughable.

Two words.....Flying Water.

[kgar311]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Anybody that saw Jean Cruget ride would find the suggestion, a serious one that is, that he belongs in the Hall of Fame, to be beyond laughable.

Two words.....Flying Water.

hmmm Seattle Slew is two words that come to mind

http://www.examiner.com/x-43823-Lexi...ll-of-Fame-nod

Heres a nice article about Cruguet getting in also

[blackthroatedwind]

Yes, Seattle Slew was an amazing horse for doing what he did with Cruget on his back.

Finally the connections had enough and got Cordero.

[cmorioles]

Dyever and Dollar Bill.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

No love for Sun King?

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

Dyever and Dollar Bill.

I assumed they were both already in. Surely Dynever deserves his own wing.

[kgar311]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Yes, Seattle Slew was an amazing horse for doing what he did with Cruget on his back.

Finally the connections had enough and got Cordero.

Major Racing Wins (Jean Cruguet)

United States Triple Crown (1977)
Travers Stakes (1968)
Lawrence Realization Stakes (1969, 1970, 1975, 1978)
Metropolitan Handicap (1969)
Toboggan Handicap (1969)
Cowdin Stakes (1970)
Laurel Futurity (1970)
Manhattan Handicap (1974)
Stuyvesant Handicap (1974)
Alabama Stakes (1975, 1983)
Hopeful Stakes (1975, 1976)
Champagne Stakes (1976)
Mother Goose Stakes (1976, 1977)
Flamingo Stakes (1977)
Wood Memorial Stakes (1977, 1984)
Futurity Stakes (1978)
Washington, D.C. International (1978, 1993)
Jerome Handicap (1979)
Ladies Handicap (1979)
Saranac Handicap (1979)
Withers Stakes (1979)
Blue Grass Stakes (1983)
Tremont Stakes (1983)
Coaching Club American Oaks (1984)
Dwyer Stakes (1984)
Knickerbocker Handicap (1985, 1986, 1988, 1992)
Matron Stakes (1986)
American Classic Race wins:

Kentucky Derby (1977)
Preakness Stakes (1977)
Belmont Stakes (1977)
International Race wins

Prix Vermeille (1972)
Poule d'Essai des Pouliches (1972)
Champion Stakes (1973)
Canadian International Stakes (1978, 1989)
Significant Horses

Arts and Letters, Hoist The Flag, San San, Bold Reason, Seattle Slew


Man all those horses he won these races with must of been world beaters seeing they had a rock on their back like Cruguet.

[kgar311]

Originally Posted by kgar311

Major Racing Wins

United States Triple Crown (1977)
Travers Stakes (1968)
Lawrence Realization Stakes (1969, 1970, 1975, 1978)
Metropolitan Handicap (1969)
Toboggan Handicap (1969)
Cowdin Stakes (1970)
Laurel Futurity (1970)
Manhattan Handicap (1974)
Stuyvesant Handicap (1974)
Alabama Stakes (1975, 1983)
Hopeful Stakes (1975, 1976)
Champagne Stakes (1976)
Mother Goose Stakes (1976, 1977)
Flamingo Stakes (1977)
Wood Memorial Stakes (1977, 1984)
Futurity Stakes (1978)
Washington, D.C. International (1978, 1993)
Jerome Handicap (1979)
Ladies Handicap (1979)
Saranac Handicap (1979)
Withers Stakes (1979)
Blue Grass Stakes (1983)
Tremont Stakes (1983)
Coaching Club American Oaks (1984)
Dwyer Stakes (1984)
Knickerbocker Handicap (1985, 1986, 1988, 1992)
Matron Stakes (1986)
American Classic Race wins:

Kentucky Derby (1977)
Preakness Stakes (1977)
Belmont Stakes (1977)
International Race wins

Prix Vermeille (1972)
Poule d'Essai des Pouliches (1972)
Champion Stakes (1973)
Canadian International Stakes (1978, 1989)
Significant Horses

Arts and Letters, Hoist The Flag, San San, Bold Reason, Seattle Slew

Now look at the list WITHOUT Cruguet's name attached to it and tell me that isnt a hall of fame career

[Thunder Gulch]

Originally Posted by Cardus

I was a big fan of Lemon Drop Kid, but I don't think that he belongs in the Hall of Fame.

Very good, but no way he's HOF, and that's without stirring the pot by calling him a New York specialist.