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![]() 9 lbs to St. Trinians...I have a healthy respect for whomever Mitchell is throwing out there at the moment. As much as the Rachelites will try to make of it, if St. Trinians runs her A race, this is a bigger test than what Rachel has faced this year. 2010
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![]() Spinning already.
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![]() I know ST is not Zardana, but she is right there at the top of the division isn't she? No worries Zenyatta will be fine.
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![]() The Special Olympics Division? Don't be scared. I know it's possible to take after the connections but man up, dude.
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![]() Over/under on the number of Zenyatta bobbleheads Smooth Operator comes home with?
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![]() Close call but I couldn't be so sure. Unrivaled Belle is an improving filly and never got the credit she deserved in defeating RA.
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![]() So St. Trinians is better than Unrivaled Belle because the former beat Life Is Sweet?
It's one thing to say that Zenyatta winning this race with all that weight would be a huge accomplishment, it's quite another to say that St. Trinians is better than Unrivaled Belle. I'm still waiting for someone to tell me why Zenyatta is only giving St. Trinians 9 lbs and why she's carrying the exact same thing she was last year in this race. NT |
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Nonetheless, there is no longer any guarantee that St. Trinians is still in that peak form she was in late last year and early this year. Its been 3 months since the Big Cap debacle (she should have been in the Santa Margarita--not the Apple Blossom) and who's to say she's the same horse after getting pummeled? |
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Last edited by CSC : 06-08-2010 at 10:25 AM. |
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![]() Yes, her career has been characterized by herculean trial.
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She won the Rampart on Fla Derby day before winning the La Troienne and came into the latter with a record of 5: 4-0-1 on conventional dirt with the only blemish being a 2nd place finish in the Gazelle. I know you're desperate to pound away at any horse who beat Rachel, but Unrivaled Belle was as accomplished coming into the La Troienne, if not more, than St. Trinians is coming into the Vanity. Where did I say anything about St. Trinians being terrible? All I said was that a horse of Zenyatta's caliber should give ST at least 15 lbs in my opinion. You're talking about a Grade II and listed stakes winner and a 16x winner, BC Classic winner, 2x GI winner in 2010, and CSC Horse of the Year here. Come on, 9 lbs? NT |
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As for the weight, I think the spread is more important than the actual weight. It is generally accepted by some horseplayeres that 1 lb equals 1 length in the final result, and to me that is substantial when you are giving that amount of weight to a horse of St. Trinians caliber. In the end it may not matter, Zenyatta will probably run her down anyway, but she can't have a subpar ride from Smith or an off day. |
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![]() Because they were afraid hitting the magical number of 130 or higher would cause Zenyatta's connections to tell them to go jump. They want her in the race, ergo she gets 129. They couldn't be absolutely ridiculous and give her less than before--she's won the BCC since. They also might've been concerned that they'd have to give ST and the others even less unless they had Z up high enough. A little balancing act.
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"To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize"...Voltaire |
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![]() Are you speaking in some kind of code? I don't know what you're talking about.
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It has nothing to do with on the track as was pointed out by Merlinsky.
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ST was a Gr.2 winner that was riding an unbeaten streak on AW in NA prior to the Big Cap. Infact if one looks at her Euro record on AW, it was no wonder why she was bet like iron in the Big Cap. I differ, in my opinion, ST is the superior challenge of the 2 at this stage. Let's see how UB handles her new found fame, when she races against tougher as the season goes on. In addition, a vital point is Zenyatta is conceding 9 lbs to a gr.2 winner, something Rachel to this point hasn't done. |