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![]() ... and 3 years ago, 4 years ago, 6 years ago...
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![]() sthop making thense!
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![]() First off, Noble's Promise ran 100 times better then I thought he would, for him to finish 5th is amazing to me.
Second off, I can't believe fatman just said Icebox benefited from being stopped in the race. He wonders why he gets crucified? |
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![]() Scav, go down to your local velodrome or park with your bike. Get in a draft with a bunch of guys going 25 miles per hour. I know it's only bike racing, but if you have to check when you're in a pack, it's easy to re-rally and keep up with the riders you're with because of the aerodynamics of the draft. Ice Box just used the Shake and Bake.
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I gotta be honest too, I like reading The Fat Man's posts, there are tidbits that really are worth using towards your handicapping. |
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![]() Watch the replays of the years you are quoting guys... the horses who win this race take the lead at the very end of the turn or after the final turn, not early or midway through the turn.
2 years ago... Big Brown didn't take the lead until the end of the turn. 3 years ago... Street Sense didn't pass Hard Spun till mid stretch. 4 years ago... Barbaro didn't take the lead until nearing the end of the turn. 6 years ago... Smarty Jones didn't take the lead until they left the final turn. Last edited by pba1817 : 05-04-2010 at 12:02 AM. |
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It wouldn't surprise me that NP was in front at some point in between calls or earlier than Big Brown or Barbaro. (Although my recollection of Barbaro's race was that he had the lead midway on the turn.) In any event if you watch BB's and Barbaro's derbys I would guess that they were moving away from the others behind them when they made those moves. This was not the case with Nobles Promise. He was separated from SS by the same distance throughout the run down the backstretch and around the turn. If NP made a premature move then so did Super Saver. What really was happening was the two leaders were backing up to the field. On the pan shot from NBC you can only see three horses when NP inherited the lead. That gave the appearance that he was moving swiftly and perhaps prematurely but only from the skycam can you see that SS was moving just as quickly as NP. If there was any move that hurt NP's chances it was the one going into the clubhouse turn. |
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![]() The move that hurt Nobles Promise's best chances of a victory was the selection of which pilot to use...
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