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Old 04-29-2010, 06:26 AM
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And I hope the Tea Baggers, those folks who call themselves strict and faithful Constitutionalists, who are against government infringement upon our rights as individuals, and who support the Fourth Amendment, fight this tooth and nail.

Seems Arizona doesn't need a law to harass non-white Americans

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How would you take care of the illegals? Just curious. Dont you show identification at a Doctor's office when you show your insurance card?
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Old 04-29-2010, 07:04 AM
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Members of the Tea Party didn't start out calling themselves "teabaggers". That name has been given to us by the left wing media. I'm relatively certain that a vast number of Tea Party members have no conception as to the vulgar meaning of the word. But, we have been called worse. Sticks and stones....

I'm all for a National ID card. It would solve a lot of problems. I wouldn't consider it any more of an infringement on my rights than showing my photo'd driver's license. If the federal government chooses inertia on the issue, perhaps each state could issue different DL's - one type to USA citizens, and another type to those who are not. I'd gladly pay extra $$$'s for that type of national security.
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Old 04-29-2010, 07:45 AM
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Members of the Tea Party didn't start out calling themselves "teabaggers". That name has been given to us by the left wing media. I'm relatively certain that a vast number of Tea Party members have no conception as to the vulgar meaning of the word. But, we have been called worse. Sticks and stones....

I'm all for a National ID card. It would solve a lot of problems. I wouldn't consider it any more of an infringement on my rights than showing my photo'd driver's license. If the federal government chooses inertia on the issue, perhaps each state could issue different DL's - one type to USA citizens, and another type to those who are not. I'd gladly pay extra $$$'s for that type of national security.
You know who proposed a National ID Card and who voted it down?
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Old 04-29-2010, 07:51 AM
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You know who proposed a National ID Card and who voted it down?
I'm not blaming any person or party for the failure to launch on this proposal. Both parties are afraid to do anything about it because it just might decrease their Hispanic votes.
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Old 04-29-2010, 08:00 AM
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I'm not blaming any person or party for the failure to launch on this proposal. Both parties are afraid to do anything about it because it just might decrease their Hispanic votes.
I am in favor of it, fyi. Clinton tried to push it through it '93 and both sides slammed him hard.
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Old 04-29-2010, 08:09 AM
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I am in favor of it, fyi. Clinton tried to push it through it '93 and both sides slammed him hard.
According to this, the Clinton administration was against it:

http://www.apatheticvoter.com/NationalIdentityCard.htm

Good read - gives both pros and cons. A lot of the cons are "fear mongering". That nutcase Ron Paul says the government will implant some kind of chip whereby everyone can be tracked. HUH?!

Keep it simple - proof of citizenship gets you a National photo ID photo. Perhaps it can be counterfeited - just spend money on the technology whereby it can't.

Better yet - make it VOLUNTARY - not mandatory. Wonder how many people would go for it. HMMMmmmmmm - think the go for its would far outnumber the hell no's.
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Old 04-29-2010, 09:15 PM
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Members of the Tea Party didn't start out calling themselves "teabaggers".
Uh ... no.

Nice try, though
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Uh ... no.

Nice try, though
Can it, Beth.
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Old 04-29-2010, 09:26 PM
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Can it, Beth.
Sorry, Doreen. Go back and look through the news.
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Old 04-29-2010, 09:30 PM
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Sorry, Doreen. Go back and look through the news.
I don't have to, Beth - I can look right through you and everyone who turns a blind eye as to how this nation is getting screwed by POTUS and his puppet masters.
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Old 04-29-2010, 09:40 PM
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I don't have to, Beth - I can look right through you and everyone who turns a blind eye as to how this nation is getting screwed by POTUS and his puppet masters.
I was talking about the Teabaggers calling themselves that. Before they were informed what other meaning it had.

This nation is lucky to have this President, at this time in history. McCain-Palin? Dear gawd, what a disaster.

BTW, I can look right through you, too. And it ain't pretty.
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Old 04-29-2010, 09:22 PM
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I'm all for a National ID card. It would solve a lot of problems. I wouldn't consider it any more of an infringement on my rights than showing my photo'd driver's license. If the federal government chooses inertia on the issue, perhaps each state could issue different DL's - one type to USA citizens, and another type to those who are not. I'd gladly pay extra $$$'s for that type of national security.
The current Democratic proposal has a national ID card. I see a great deal of difference between a national ID card - which should have the same requirements as a US passport - and a license to drive a car.

Driver's licenses are easy to get. It depends upon the state. I don't see any "national security" at all there. Illegals already have plenty of driver's licenses now.
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How would you take care of the illegals? Just curious. Dont you show identification at a Doctor's office when you show your insurance card?
She would hire them.
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yay Michael Bloomberg
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Old 04-29-2010, 01:22 PM
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Oh, yeah, the same Bloomberg who offered one way tickets out of town to homeless people - many of whom were citizens.

Can't have no homeless people cluttering up the streets of NYC.

That Bloomberg?!~
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Old 04-29-2010, 09:24 PM
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She would hire them.
Absurdly stupid comment on your part. No, I would not. I am against illegal immigrants being in this country.
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Absurdly stupid comment on your part. No, I would not. I am against illegal immigrants being in this country.
oh, we get to call you a racist now
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