1/28 (GP): $12MM Pegasus World Cup

[Pants II]

Originally Posted by RHT2004

Really? A once in a lifetime talent just cruised geared down. That wasn't exciting? This horse is 1 or 2 more of these races away from best ever IMO. He is different. No other horse is even close to him right now and I believe he is still improving. He is a lightly raced 4yr old. The best is yet to come.

I agree with everything except for the 1 or 2 more races. That's just ridiculous but understandable considering your bromance with Bob.

[blackthroatedwind]

Best ever? That's funny.

Best horse since Ghostzapper is more like it. What he is really demonstrating is what happens when a great talent races against a lot of very mediocre supposed good horses.

Watching Arrogate against these horses is what it would have looked like if the 3YO Rachel Alexandra had raced against Songbird.

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Best ever? That's funny.

Best horse since Ghostzapper is more like it. What he is really demonstrating is what happens when a great talent races against a lot of very mediocre supposed good horses.

Watching Arrogate against these horses is what it would have looked like if the 3YO Rachel Alexandra had raced against Songbird and Beholder.

fixed that for ya

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

fixed that for ya

That's also true.

Thanks!

[Alabama Stakes]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Best ever? That's funny.

Best horse since Ghostzapper is more like it. What he is really demonstrating is what happens when a great talent races against a lot of very mediocre supposed good horses.

Watching Arrogate against these horses is what it would have looked like if the 3YO Rachel Alexandra had raced against Songbird.

Rachel would have ducked songbird and beholder the way she ducked Zenyatta

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes

Rachel would have ducked songbird and beholder the way she ducked Zenyatta

Rachel would have also ducked shipping past the Rocky Mountains.

[Pants II]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Rachel would have also ducked shipping past the Rocky Mountains.

Alternate Universe Rachel makes her debut at 5 in a 4 horse field on a Thursday.

[cakes44]

Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes

Rachel would have ducked songbird and beholder the way she ducked Zenyatta

Jesus f$&k.

[Alabama Stakes]

Apple Blossum time .... announced well in advance. Rachel didn't show

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes

Apple Blossum time .... announced well in advance. Rachel didn't show

There were other considerations involved that didn't involve Zenyatta phobia, but hey, you wouldn't be the first Zenyatta fan to talk out of their butt.

[RHT2004]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Best ever? That's funny.

Best horse since Ghostzapper is more like it. What he is really demonstrating is what happens when a great talent races against a lot of very mediocre supposed good horses.

Watching Arrogate against these horses is what it would have looked like if the 3YO Rachel Alexandra had raced against Songbird.

I'm with you on the last sentence.

[Alabama Stakes]

Cigar was better than Ghostzapper

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes

Cigar was better than Ghostzapper

They both were a tad bit overrated. I'd take Arrogate, especially at this point in their careers, even though both of those other two had more promising beginnings.

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

They both were a tad bit overrated. I'd take Arrogate, especially at this point in their careers, even though both of those other two had more promising beginnings.

Cigar and Ghostzapper had promising beginnings? Ghostzapper was 11 to 1 in his maiden win and cigar didnt really show promise till his 14th race of his career. Ghostzapper was not overrated. He was a freak at almost every distance. 120 beyer figure or more at 7F, 1mile, 1 1/8. and 1 1/4.

[10 pnt move up]

Ghostzapper was legit, he is the standard in my book the last couple decades.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by helicopter11

Cigar and Ghostzapper had promising beginnings? Ghostzapper was 11 to 1 in his maiden win and cigar didnt really show promise till his 14th race of his career. Ghostzapper was not overrated. He was a freak at almost every distance. 120 beyer figure or more at 7F, 1mile, 1 1/8. and 1 1/4.

Ghostzappers debut was fantastic. Eye popping even.

Cigar, I thought he was going to win a BC when he broke his maiden going 6f on dirt. He was so impressive I bet him just about every time he ran until he started his win streak on the East Coast. I believe he lost them all.

GZ didnt really live up to his debut until he ran at Saratoga.