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Old 01-12-2016, 01:12 PM
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what unbiased observer deduced that?
If you were unfamiliar with the candidates platforms, and saw nothing special about demographic backgrounds, and were covering the story as an unbiased reporter, you would observe that Trump for the Republicans and Sanders for the Democrats are generating the most excitement at this point by virtue of attendance at their rallies.

Trump's numbers might change a lot as other candidates drop out. Bernie is part of a small field, so in a way it is hard to fathom that he should vanish out of the field of 3, when he clearly is drawing more public support right now.

Now maybe it is the that the "silent majority" of Democrats prefer Hillary over Bernie, but then why is she not packing them in at her rallies, which are fewer than Bernie's?

If Debbie Wasserman Schultz wasn't propping her up, she'd have dropped even further by now.
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If you were unfamiliar with the candidates platforms, and saw nothing special about demographic backgrounds, and were covering the story as an unbiased reporter, you would observe that Trump for the Republicans and Sanders for the Democrats are generating the most excitement at this point by virtue of attendance at their rallies.

Trump's numbers might change a lot as other candidates drop out. Bernie is part of a small field, so in a way it is hard to fathom that he should vanish out of the field of 3, when he clearly is drawing more public support right now.

Now maybe it is the that the "silent majority" of Democrats prefer Hillary over Bernie, but then why is she not packing them in at her rallies, which are fewer than Bernie's?

If Debbie Wasserman Schultz wasn't propping her up, she'd have dropped even further by now.
the fact that trump is leading speaks volumes about the republican party.
he is a disgrace.
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the fact that trump is leading speaks volumes about the republican party.
You talk as if he only has support from Reps.
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Old 01-12-2016, 02:11 PM
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You talk as if he only has support from Reps.
yeah, there are a few who aren't republican who support him.
but i'm not just talking about the voters...what about the party? what is wrong that from the top down, the person getting the most support isn't actually a republican? has given exactly ZERO details on any plan for anything at all? that the party leaders don't want him? that they couldn't find a good candidate to face off against him? that he is in control?
it is truly bizarre.
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Old 01-12-2016, 02:14 PM
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He has roughly 30% of Reps supporting him, and new polls suggest 20% of Dems.

BTW, Bernie's not a Dem.
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The parties are in such bad shape and so distrusted that their preferred candidates are being sucker punched by outsiders. I could dig that, but as bad a candidate as Hill is, a Sanders or Trump presidency will only help the downward slide pick up a good head of steam.
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Likable enough:
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He has roughly 30% of Reps supporting him, and new polls suggest 20% of Dems.

BTW, Bernie's not a Dem.
no, he isn't.
but everyone knows you can't run as an I and have a shot in hell at the presidency.
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yeah, there are a few who aren't republican who support him.
but i'm not just talking about the voters...what about the party? what is wrong that from the top down, the person getting the most support isn't actually a republican? has given exactly ZERO details on any plan for anything at all? that the party leaders don't want him? that they couldn't find a good candidate to face off against him? that he is in control?
it is truly bizarre.
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He has roughly 30% of Reps supporting him, and new polls suggest 20% of Dems.

BTW, Bernie's not a Dem.
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no, he isn't.
but everyone knows you can't run as an I and have a shot in hell at the presidency.
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the fact that trump is leading speaks volumes about the republican party.
he is a disgrace.
He will fit in just fine, that party is full of disgraces!
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Old 01-13-2016, 07:37 AM
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He will fit in just fine, that party is full of disgraces!
LOL - compared to whom, the Democrats?
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LOL - compared to whom, the Democrats?
What are trumps plans? On the economy, foreign affairs, taxes, spending?

But I do know one thing I am really liking......the kochs and those like them have been marginalized so far in this race. Would love for it to stay that way.
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What are trumps plans? On the economy, foreign affairs, taxes, spending?

But I do know one thing I am really liking......the kochs and those like them have been marginalized so far in this race. Would love for it to stay that way.
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Old 01-13-2016, 10:33 AM
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i know citizens united was a way to open the floodgates. but, thankfully, superpacs cannot work with campaigns, can't pay campaign employees, etc. so far it hasn't been as bad as once feared.
now, lobbying-that is the spigot needing shutting off. don't call it what it is, bribery. that would give it negative connotations!
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