Trump beats Hillary in new poll

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by joeydb

I think the media is asking the wrong question regarding the Democrats.

Instead of "Why is Bernie Sanders attracting such big crowds", they should be asking "Why is Hillary even being considered?"

Outside of a demographic "I am a woman" platform, what does she have to offer? Carpetbagged a Senate seat and was a disastrous Secretary of State. If she was a dude, we'd would not be discussing her at all. And we all know it.

yeah, she invented moving to a state to run for office.
seriously, there is plenty to complain about with her.
and no, we don't all know it.
if you took any former senator and sec of state, they would have more of a resume than people like carson or trump, or fiorina.

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by Danzig

yeah, she invented moving to a state to run for office.
seriously, there is plenty to complain about with her.
and no, we don't all know it.
if you took any former senator and sec of state, they would have more of a resume than people like carson or trump, or fiorina.

She did not invent carpetbagging, no. But she needed that tactic as she had no other experience at the time to go directly to a Senate seat instead of a House seat.

John Kerry should run again by that logic. He was both a Senator and is the current Secretary of State. Rewind back to 2004, if he was already Sec. of State instead of coming directly from Senate, does he win?

She definitely gets a bonus, deserved or not, off of her being female. What's interesting is that the excitement level is lacking and her polls are dropping in spite of that advantage. The longer she talks, the more people she repulses.

[joeydb]

God forbid if she does win (Heaven help us), it will be interesting to see if these words get used against her:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJxmpTMGhU0

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by joeydb

She did not invent carpetbagging, no. But she needed that tactic as she had no other experience at the time to go directly to a Senate seat instead of a House seat.

John Kerry should run again by that logic. He was both a Senator and is the current Secretary of State. Rewind back to 2004, if he was already Sec. of State instead of coming directly from Senate, does he win?

She definitely gets a bonus, deserved or not, off of her being female. What's interesting is that the excitement level is lacking and her polls are dropping in spite of that advantage. The longer she talks, the more people she repulses.

amazing that we now consider being female a bonus. when did that happen? and did you know that many females won't necessarily vote for her just because she's a woman? and i know there are men who would NEVER vote for any woman.

she could have run in arkansas, or in illinois. they chose to make ny their home. no big deal.

and being sec of state used to be the big springboard to the presidency. it was the seat held by many who later became president. it wouldn't hurt to be so again, it's a good way to get foreign policy experience, which is absolutely necessary-especially in this day and age.
no way of knowing how that would have helped kerry.
but off the top of my head, jefferson had been sec of state, madison, monroe, jq adams...clay was, but his supposed corrupt bargain that jackson accused him of making with jq kept clay from gaining the wh.