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Old 05-01-2015, 01:04 PM
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Projected derby favoritism based on the oaks derby double payout per dollar from #7 in first leg
American Pharoah28
Dortmund40
Frosted86
Carpe Diem91
Firing Line95
Mubtaahij110
Materiality117
Upstart148
International Star195
American Pharoah and Dortmund are clearly 1 and 2.
Frosted projects to be a close 3rd choice over Carpe Diem
Firing Line and Mubtaahij currently have a clear edge over Materiality
Upstart figures a slight edge over International Star.
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Old 05-01-2015, 01:13 PM
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Projected derby favoritism based on the oaks derby double
American Pharoah
Dortmund
Frosted
Carpe Diem
Firing Line
Mubtaahij
Materiality
Upstart
International Star
American Pharoah and Dortmund are clearly 1 and 2.
Frosted projects to be a close 3rd choice over Carpe Diem
Firing Line and Mubtaahij currently have a clear edge over Materiality
Upstart figures a slight edge over International Star.
MUBTAAHIJ is getting a lot of double money for his odds
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Old 05-01-2015, 01:30 PM
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MUBTAAHIJ is getting a lot of double money for his odds
Yeah, I guess he's the wiseguy horse.
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Old 05-01-2015, 01:39 PM
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Projected derby favoritism based on the oaks derby double
American Pharoah
Dortmund
Frosted
Carpe Diem
Firing Line
Mubtaahij
Materiality
Upstart
International Star
American Pharoah and Dortmund are clearly 1 and 2.
Frosted projects to be a close 3rd choice over Carpe Diem
Firing Line and Mubtaahij currently have a clear edge over Materiality
Upstart figures a slight edge over International Star.
where can I find these double prices? thanks
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Old 05-01-2015, 02:17 PM
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Any ADW should have them. I use twinspires.
Here is a link to current derby odds, little help at this time with the small pool.
http://www.kentuckyderby.com/racing-...erby-live-odds
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Any ADW should have them. I use twinspires.
Here is a link to current derby odds, little help at this time with the small pool.
http://www.kentuckyderby.com/racing-...erby-live-odds
Wow, some interesting odds there so far.
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Old 05-02-2015, 12:44 PM
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Old 05-02-2015, 12:59 PM
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With 7.3 million in the win pool, AP is 3.3-1. Dort is 4.4-1.

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Old 05-02-2015, 04:51 PM
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Old 05-02-2015, 06:07 PM
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Win bets on frosted, carpet diem, mubtaahij, used frammento, Danzig moon, upstart, war story and far right underneath. Seems like a long shot always hits the board, so figured I'd give it a whirl.
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Old 05-02-2015, 07:14 PM
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Great job, Travis on calling the two big days.
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Old 05-02-2015, 07:14 PM
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Agreed. Watched the majority on the CD feed rather than the TV.
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Old 05-02-2015, 07:17 PM
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Agreed. Watched the majority on the CD feed rather than the TV.
Me too. Love the picture, hate the programming.
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Materiality missed the break and got shuffled way back , he starts to pick it up on the backside and was really flying late. I don't think Pletcher runs him back in Baltimore , but he showed a lot to me to handle all he did today and could be a real Belmont contender. I don't know what happened to Upstart and Carpe Diem just spit the bit. California horses again in the Derby going 1,2,3. I thought Frosted also tried his best with an unfavorable pace set up.
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Old 05-02-2015, 10:51 PM
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Materiality missed the break and got shuffled way back , he starts to pick it up on the backside and was really flying late. I don't think Pletcher runs him back in Baltimore , but he showed a lot to me to handle all he did today and could be a real Belmont contender. I don't know what happened to Upstart and Carpe Diem just spit the bit. California horses again in the Derby going 1,2,3. I thought Frosted also tried his best with an unfavorable pace set up.
Agree with all of these points. I think Materiality has nothing but improvement ahead. I was shocked that Dortmund made the lead, and that the pace was as pedestrian as it was. He could not have and a better trip, relative to the amount of ground loss American Pharaoh needed to overcome, and may be a nice miler.

American Pharaoh may be even better in Baltimore. I'd love to see the Trackus as he clearly ran further than anyone else, and while maybe not as physically impressive in victory, the stats will bear out how much extra work he had to do.

Frosted closing like a shot into an non-existent pace was visually, the most impressive performance outside of AP's victory. Danzig Moon stalking and staying on was great to see. He just gets better with every race.
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Old 05-02-2015, 11:08 PM
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I think the top five of six of this race might end up being the best in a very long while, maybe ever. I pray they make it sound all year. God what a year it might be. I hated Materiality in this race but he was VERY impressive today and I think he might end up being the second best horse of his generation. I think the winner is something special. I hope Materiality skips the Preakness because I think he's the ONLY horse that could win in Baltimore other than the Pharoah and I just want another crown attempt. I love Firing Line and Dortmund (and played them hard today) but this was their day to dethrone the Pharoah and they couldn't do it. What a race...what a day.
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Old 05-03-2015, 10:50 AM
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Agree with all of these points. I think Materiality has nothing but improvement ahead. I was shocked that Dortmund made the lead, and that the pace was as pedestrian as it was. He could not have and a better trip, relative to the amount of ground loss American Pharaoh needed to overcome, and may be a nice miler.

American Pharaoh may be even better in Baltimore. I'd love to see the Trackus as he clearly ran further than anyone else, and while maybe not as physically impressive in victory, the stats will bear out how much extra work he had to do.

Frosted closing like a shot into an non-existent pace was visually, the most impressive performance outside of AP's victory. Danzig Moon stalking and staying on was great to see. He just gets better with every race.
Pace was NOT slow. Frosted closed into a 26 final quarter and didnt get past Danzig Moon. I dont get the Frosted love. Dortmund was projected to be on pace by TimeForm it was hardily a surprise. TimeForm has the race faster then Beyer relatively speaking to their scales. AP traveled 29 feet more then Firing Line and I think 69 more then Dortmund.

I figure Dortmund to Haskel AP to Travers.
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Agreed. Watched the majority on the CD feed rather than the TV.
Thank you both. What an amazing weekend. Really hard to describe how awesome it was. Dream come true.
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Old 05-04-2015, 10:59 PM
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Thank you both. What an amazing weekend. Really hard to describe how awesome it was. Dream come true.
So happy for you!! Well done.
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Old 05-05-2015, 03:24 PM
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Thank you both. What an amazing weekend. Really hard to describe how awesome it was. Dream come true.
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