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Old 01-08-2007, 05:02 PM
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Default The leading poly sire is...

from 8/6/06 - 1/10/07 win% with at least 10 starts ---data from ALL WEATHER TRACKS ONLY
HADIF 45% from 11 starts and 5 wins--2 runners
http://www.pedigreequery.com/hadif

40% from 10 starts and 4 wins WELBRED FRED is 2nd--2 runners
http://www.pedigreequery.com/welbred+fred

UNBRIDLED JET 39% 28 starts 11 wins--6 runners
http://www.pedigreequery.com/unbridled+jet

STORM AND A HALF 38% 16 starts 6 wins--9 runners
http://www.pedigreequery.com/storm+and+a+half
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DISTANT VIEW 36% 14 starts 5 wins--5 runners
http://www.pedigreequery.com/distant+view2

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Old 01-08-2007, 05:24 PM
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and if you see a horse sired by Othello running at Turfway .. bet him no matter what his odds are. 50-1 , 70-1 .. don't matter
seen it twice - bet it once
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Old 01-08-2007, 05:27 PM
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Sumitas...I appreciate the info, although I think the small sample size hurts the argument some...How many of these are repeat starts by the same horse vs. starts from unique runners?
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Old 01-08-2007, 05:34 PM
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see my addition to the first post

highest itm %
HADIF 82%
DANEHILL 69%
CITY ZIP 64 %
ELNADIM 64%
THREE WONDERS 64%
UNBRIDLED JET 64%
TRIPPI 63%
JP HAMER 60%
MONTBROOK 60%

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Old 01-08-2007, 05:36 PM
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Thanks for doing the research
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using the number of runners I would say that Storm and a Half actually has the best record since it can't be argued that a horse just gets one or two freak runners that love the poly. high percentage of winners combined with high number of unique runners is what I would base my data on...but thats JMO
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I have a couple Distant Views that will be debuting at TWP in a few weeks. We'll see how they run.
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Old 01-08-2007, 05:49 PM
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all the best...you got to say they have a shot there.
DISTANT VIEW is 50% itm on the poly.
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I have a couple Distant Views that will be debuting at TWP in a few weeks. We'll see how they run.
if they can stay off the rail
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using the number of runners I would say that Storm and a Half actually has the best record since it can't be argued that a horse just gets one or two freak runners that love the poly. high percentage of winners combined with high number of unique runners is what I would base my data on...but thats JMO
bye bye arkansas?
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Old 01-08-2007, 06:53 PM
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was talking about storm and a half--he stands in arkansas, was wondering if having some success (esp with downthedustyroad) might move him out of ark??
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was talking about storm and a half--he stands in arkansas, was wondering if having some success (esp with downthedustyroad) might move him out of ark??
gotcha...I wouldn't worry about losing him just yet sample is too small IMO...but if he keeps it up maybe...who knows
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Old 01-08-2007, 07:12 PM
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IMO none of the top Polytrack sires were on that list. IMO some of the top sires are: Grand Slam, Running Stag, Petionville & Sea of Secrets.
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Old 01-09-2007, 12:18 AM
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GRAND SLAM 19% wins from 146 starts 28 wins --66 runners--itm 43%
RUNNING STAG 19% wins from 93 starts--32 runners--itm 34%
PETIONVILLE 11% wins from 79 starts--37 runners--itm 30%
SEA OF SECRETS 8% wins from 59 starts--23 runners--itm 27%

most starts 197 BOLD EXECUTIVE 14% wins --61 runners--itm 39%
most runners 67 TALE OF THE CAT 81 starts 18% wins--itm 45%

COZZENE is one of my favs 27% wins from 26 starts---16 runners--itm 46%
TOUR D'OR 29% wins from 24 starts--6 runners--itm 50%

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Old 01-09-2007, 10:04 AM
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But what about the ROIs? Petitionville has already had two $120 plus winners.

Tale of the Cat is another good one. Most of the Storm Cat line seem to take to it.

Do you have numbers on Pioneering, Storm Cat's 1/2 bro?
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Old 01-09-2007, 06:43 PM
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PIONEERING 7% winners from 73 starts--33 runners--itm 33%

the AP Indys are getting off slow although AP INDY himself is 40% itm; the best is STEPHEN GOT EVEN 17% wins 75 starts--30 runners--itm 35%

DEPUTY MINISTERS are off slow topped by WILLOWY AMBASSADOR 20% wins from 25 starts--4 runners--itm 36%
and FOREST CAMP 16% winners from 51 starts--28 runners--itm 31%
and DEPUTY COMMANDER 14% wins from 96 starts--39 runners-itm 43%

SKIP AWAY gets a lot of poly ink 19% wins 113 starts--35 runners--44% itm

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always liked cozzene, he's getting up there in age tho now. enjoy him while you can.
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SKIP AWAY gets a lot of poly ink 19% wins 113 starts--35 runners--44% itm
MY favorite I always look for his on the poly.
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Old 01-09-2007, 09:23 PM
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For what it's worth Military had the highest average winning purse of any KY sire at Turfway in 05-06.
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